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First Start Of F-134 Engine After A Long Time Being Stopped And With Repaired Engine

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Claudio Guillén Quirós, Sep 7, 2020.

  1. Sep 7, 2020
    Claudio Guillén Quirós

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    Hello
    Today I want to ask you about your recommendations on how to clean the rust in the cooling system of an F-134 engine that has not started for 5 years and without having any liquid in the system. Also, if for that resuscitation start by calling it in some way after the engine was repaired, they have some tip that can help me for that next first start. Another question: do any of you use the carburetor return line? Mine does not have it connected but if it has the one planned to connect it and in photos I have not seen it connected either. I installed a pressure gauge and a low pressure regulator to adjust to no more than 3.5 PSI as indicated in the literature but I am not sure how convenient it is to install the return line.
    Thank you very much
     
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    I don't know of any F-134 that has a return line.

    They may have vacuum lines from the intake manifold and/or the dual type vacuum/fuel pump. Do you have vacuum operated windshield wipers?

    What year is the jeep?
     
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    Glenn

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    If your engine has not had any coolant/water in it for that long maybe you should try to blow compressed air through it first to see if any dust, dirt, rusty flakes etc. come out. Are you planning to run it first to determine if the engine needs repairing?
     
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    Glenn

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    Also you don't want to flush any junk from the engine into the radiator so disconnect the inlet and outlet hoses before you try blowing anything out.
     
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    I’d do this. Then run water hose thru for a few minutes. Then I’d use a flush mix available at most parts stores. Flush the radiator the same way but separately.
     
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    Claudio Guillén Quirós

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    Claudio Guillén Quirós

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    PeteL can you see in the photo the red circle that I drew on the carburetor? That would be the return line if I connected it. But as you say, I have not seen one connected either.
     
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    Claudio Guillén Quirós

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    Thanks Glenn.
    I repaired the engine about two years ago.
    The technician in charge removed the head, new rings were put, the crankshaft was rectified, with its new bearings. The engine was assembled with enough lubricant so that it was ready when the start was made.
     
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    Claudio Guillén Quirós

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    I was wondering if doing the same thing, Glenn's idea of putting compressed air first also seems to me
     
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    Glenn

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    Ok, so it's already been started and now you just need to get it ready to use then? I thought you meant the water jacket part of the block was of unknown condition.
     
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    "That's your problem, right there." That is not a stock OEM Jeep " Carter YF" carb.

    Probably a solex - about which I know less than nothing.
     
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    Ummm..... is that an A/C compressor on an F head? o_O
     
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    Glenn

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    I noticed that too. Also looks like power steering on the other side?
     
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    Claudio Guillén Quirós

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    Thanks Glenn for your comments.
    Yes, the engine was previously repaired.
    But I still consider that it may have dirt or corrosion due to not having any lubricating liquid in the system.
    And if you both saw the A / C compressor and power steering, the alternator is also 90 amps, higher capacity. This because my car has a hard top, so I am going to install the A / C and power steering for more comfort. Another modification that we made that was consistent with those changes, was to install the external fuel tank like the Jeep M170, so I hope not to have problems with gasoline vapors inside the cabin with A / C
     
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    Neat Setup.

    I have used that Solex on a few FHeads with great success and never used a return.
     
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    Antifreeze/coolant blend will probably include additives for both pump seal lube and anti-corrosion.
     
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    Claudio Guillén Quirós

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    Perfect then.
    Another thing that I forgot to mention to you is that I am going to use a low pressure Holley electric pump, however, as the technical specifications of the pump indicate that the maximum value is 4 PSI and the engine manual says 3.75 PSI. install a pressure regulator that allows me to calibrate at 3.5 PSI, I think that at that pressure I should not have problems
     
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    Claudio Guillén Quirós

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    Yes PeteL, that should contain the additives I require. I will follow the advice of blowing with compressed air before, later I add water and flushing mix, I work the engine like that for a while and later I add the coolant
     
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    Glenn

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    The engine manual would be for a Carter YF, not a Solex, which is what you have. I would try no more than 2 psi with the Solex which is an aftermarket carburetor.
     
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    Claudio Guillén Quirós

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    Glenn exactly thought of that after posting. The manual clearly indicates YF-951S carburetor. Done, I'm going to set the system to 2 PSI
     
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