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First Jeep build! Here we go...

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by '72CJ5, May 30, 2010.

  1. Jul 24, 2012
    '72CJ5

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    Haha, well they were used springs so I aint expecting them to be perfect. You can tell that the jeep has a slight passenger side lean but seems to even out once I get in so I think i will leave it be for now. Def want to build longer shackles for the front though, they go almost flat with the spring once compressed and my tires bottom out on my fenders so I still have more up tavel to go and fear the shackles now wont cut the mustard.
     
  2. Jul 25, 2012
    '72CJ5

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    After a couple days of thinking, Im going to try and repair my carb with some JB weld from the inside as well as the outside to try and seal it up. Will do the same with the hard vent tube coming from the fuel tank which ALSO sprung a leak.
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    Also thinking about cutting my front fenders like Posimoto did his jeep. My fenders now have cracks and dents all over the place from when my tow bar fell going down the road so Im thinking about cutting these. As you can see from the pics, My fenders are limiting my suspention in the front and I aint diggin that too much.
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    Here you can see the front suspention has no more room for travel, yet I still have more spring flex to go. Rear is perfect, just like I was hoping.
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  3. Jul 25, 2012
    johneyboy03

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    For the carb you could also weld it with bronze it will goes inside the crack for a complete seal....my 2 cents.

    For the flat fender thing it a very good sollution but i don't like the look it give the rig...for me body is the only thing oem on the jeep so i'll try to keep it that way

    Just M2c

    Have a good day body, happy to see it seem to work well for you!!!
     
  4. Jul 26, 2012
    '72CJ5

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    Not too good with brazing but im a pro with JB weld so i think i will go that route and see what happens. Float has been sticking on me for awhile now (about 2 or 3 months before the build) and continues to do the same thing...bad enough to flood my entire manifold with fuel where it is running (not dripping, but running) off the back of the engine. So if I cant get it fixed, then I guess its time for yet ANOTHER new carb.
     
  5. Jul 27, 2012
    '72CJ5

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    Ok, so i have been pondering my front shackle situation for a few days now and have two ways to go. The first way is to build longer shackles and see what happens or I can cut off my shackle mounts and move them forward a bit but dont know how much I would get by moving them the half inch that i half left. I dont think I have enough forward room to make a big difference, so what do you guys think?
    Move them forward this much
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    or, longer shackles?
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  6. Jul 27, 2012
    Posimoto

    Posimoto Hopeless JEEP Addict

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    You have one other option. You could move the main eye mount back. Longer shackles would be the easiest though. They probably won't have to be much longer. If you have some scrap steel that you can use to mock up some new shackles, I'd start by only adding 3/4" to 1" and see what they look like. If you move the main hangers you will lose a little wheelbase, could create other difficulties too. But it's a possible solution. I feel your pain. This is the kind of stuff I've been sorting out for the last 6 months. Just when you think you are done something else comes along. I have a Motorcraft 2100 that someone gave me. I rebuilt it, but never got it to run very well. You are welcome to it if you want to pay for shipping. PM me with a mailing address if you want it.
     
  7. Jul 27, 2012
    '74Renegade

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    Hey guys, I will be in Tahoe next week and in Chowchilla on Aug 5th. Mark if you want I could transport free of charge, I am going to be in those two places anyway.
     
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  8. Jul 28, 2012
    '72CJ5

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    that would be awesome!!! thank you guys so so much! I will pm you my number so we can meet up. I live just a few minuets off of hwy 99. and posi, your a life saver!
     
  9. Jul 28, 2012
    Posimoto

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    No problem. Glad I can help you out.
     
  10. Jul 28, 2012
    '72CJ5

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    And bout my front shackles, moving the spring mount (non shackle) will bring my axle backwards and I dont want to loose any wheel base but after looking at it more, i dont have enough room up front to move my shackle mount so making longer shackles is seeming like the only option at the moment. I will try getting me some steel and making me a new set. And posi, does your wrangler springs have the long over load spring on the bottom of the pack? My yota ones do and I think they are hindering my up travel. I want to be able to stuff a rear tire and I cant seem to quite get it all the way up there.
     
  11. Jul 28, 2012
    Posimoto

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    Nope, I don't have a long spring on the bottom of the pack. The easiest way to get the rear wheel up in the fender is to put a front tire on something big. That will put more weight on the rear than just putting a jack under it.
     
  12. Jul 29, 2012
    '72CJ5

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    Im going off of what I seen on the shake down run. Granted, I didn't fully flex the jeep out becuase the roll over point is a lot different then before and with the new found traction the jeep has and being up there alone...i didn't want to push my luck. Im thinking that if push comes to shove, i can always cut the overload spring shorter on each end allowing the spring to go negative. As of now, it will go a smidge past flat. Front will go negative but im thinking thats because of the extra weight.
     
  13. Jul 29, 2012
    '72CJ5

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    oh, also posi, can you show me how you cut your front fenders? Mine do nothing but get in the way and I would rather cut them then have the front tires do it for me.
     
  14. Jul 29, 2012
    Posimoto

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    I cut the fenders where the raised edge of the fender meets the rounded over from the top edge. If you are carefull you can eliminate the spot where the side light recess is. I used a piece of masking tape wrapped across the front to continue the line from the side. At the back , side, you can almost follow the line of the overlay piece of the fender. But not exactly. You have to make sure you don't cut into the inner fender where it joins the outer. You can see in the pic I was hoping to just follow that line down, but couldn't. I used a jig saw to make the cut and a flapper disc on an angle grinder to clean it up. I marked the line with a small point Sharpie.

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  15. Jul 29, 2012
    Posimoto

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    Here's a view of the inside front of the fender. It's easier to do than you might think.

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  16. Jul 29, 2012
    Posimoto

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    Before you cut those rears think about having all your camping gear, ice chest etc. in the back. You might need that extra overload spring at that point. And I'm not sure lots of uptravel is all that necessary. I only have about 3" of uptravel and my suspension works just fine.
     
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  17. Jul 29, 2012
    '72CJ5

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    I will wait on the suspention untill I can get it to be fully articulated and I will go from there. For your fenders, it looks pretty straight forward but Im not sure I want to cut that much off. I may follow the same line that you did but maybe leave a couple inches
     
  18. Jul 29, 2012
    Posimoto

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    I only cut off a couple of inches, if that.
     
  19. Jul 30, 2012
    '72CJ5

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    Guess its just hard to tell from the pics. Mike had a good idea about "bobbing" the fenders. meaning that I cut the lower lip off the fender all the way to the grill, remove as much as I want the weld the lip back on...leaving me with the stock look but just shorter...think i may give it a shot. I want to try and keep a front flare on the jeep. Just looks better in my own opinion, with the rear having flares.
     
  20. Jul 30, 2012
    '72CJ5

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    In the next few days, im going to buy me some flat bar to build a new set of front shackles. Now, i want to gain about 1 1/2 inches of lift in the front and from what I have been reading...you only gain about 1/2 inch of lift per inch of added shackle length, so to acheive my 1.5 inches, i would need to add 3 inches to my shackles?
     
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