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Dry Steering Box

Discussion in 'Early CJ-5 and CJ-6 Tech' started by Skipjack, Apr 8, 2019.

  1. Apr 8, 2019
    Skipjack

    Skipjack 1952 M38A1

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    91F69EA3-4D52-4077-B3AA-FB13EB41ABBD.jpeg Against advisement I opened up my Saginaw to make sure that’s what was locking up my steering.
     
  2. Apr 8, 2019
    jeepstar

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    certainly not lubing much with whats there, but i doubt that is causing the locking up that you are experiencing. time to swap in a new unit!
     
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  3. Apr 8, 2019
    Skipjack

    Skipjack 1952 M38A1

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    I’m yrying to figure if this is just old chunky grease or rusty oil. When I spin the steering shaft it feels like the bearings are rolling over something. Not smooth like I would expect.
     
  4. Apr 8, 2019
    Skipjack

    Skipjack 1952 M38A1

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    Contacted a guy in CL with a replacement. Gonna get it tonight & compare the movement. I hope my problems are not in my hubs
     
  5. Apr 8, 2019
    tarry99

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    That problem could be anywhere between the steering column to the spindles..........that gear box has been dry for years and probably leaked / seeped out what was once in a fluid form........decades ago..
     
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  6. Apr 8, 2019
    Skipjack

    Skipjack 1952 M38A1

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    Since I found a new steering box I will be taking the old one apart. I want to see if there are needle bearing parts or anything else that could have made that steering box act like it was frozen.
     
  7. Apr 8, 2019
    tarry99

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    No needle bearings...........recirculating ball bearings in the sector shaft....is what cuts down the force.......standard shaft bearings at each end........don't try and re-invent the wheel.......Life is to short!
     
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  8. Apr 8, 2019
    Skipjack

    Skipjack 1952 M38A1

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  9. Apr 8, 2019
    Skipjack

    Skipjack 1952 M38A1

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    The PO welded the steering to the Saginaw. I will not be doing that. I will need to fabricate a new shaft.
     
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  10. Apr 9, 2019
    Jrobz23

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    Make sure you get a "Chevy" style if you're swapping out a "Chevy" style sag. That pitman is facing the Ford direction, like mine.
     
  11. Apr 12, 2019
    timgr

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    Saginaw manual steering gears are filled with grease. Look at a TSM from the '70s - free to read and download here: Jeep® Parts Manuals online
     
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