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Differential Cover Gasket With Or Without

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by mickeykelley, Oct 8, 2018.

  1. Oct 8, 2018
    mickeykelley

    mickeykelley Well-Known Member

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    The PO had used orange silicone on the differential covers at some point. How many of you guys use the gasket only vs a little non hardening on the gasket vs RTV only?
     
  2. Oct 8, 2018
    Daryl

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    Silicone actually stops more leaks. Personal preference. It depends on how often you go through water as to how much expense you want to go with gaskets vs silicone. There are also reuseable cover gaskets now.
     
  3. Oct 9, 2018
    jeepstar

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    that's the route I went with. I go through and drain my diffs once a year. much nicer than peeling off an old gasket or rtv/silicone stuff.
     
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  4. Oct 9, 2018
    jeep2003

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    I use Permatex"the right stuff" on everything like that. So does the shop my brother is a mechanic at and they have used it for atleast the 20 years he has worked there. Personally Iv never had a leak with it. I dont use regular blue or orange silicone only in a pinch. I have had leaks with it and I hate the smell.
     
  5. Oct 9, 2018
    70cj5134f

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    Well, if everything is nice and flat?, no sealant?
    Or, glue, seal, gasket to cover, then grease on dif, then a std gasket become reusable?
     
  6. Oct 9, 2018
    mickeykelley

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    WITH. Tried the front and it dripped no matter how clean the surfaces or how tight.
     
  7. Oct 9, 2018
    Chilly

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    Once bolts are torqued with a gasket the cover likely puckers around the bolt holes, especially thin aftermarket covers. After that Id say best to stick with gaskets and THIN skim of sealant.

    I'm changing to the reusable gaskets next time. Also tired of scraping, and if not for that hassle I think Id change my lube more often.
     
  8. Oct 9, 2018
    Mike C

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    With a gasket, I like the Permatex Aviation Form-A-Gasket that comes in the can with a brush cap. This is almost identical to the gasket sealer you could buy at GM back in the day. I much prefer it to silicone on gaskets. Hondabond is supposed to be the best thing going if you are using sealer and no gasket.
     
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    Rich M.

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    I've slowly been replacing everything with lube locker reusables. Haven't removed any covers yet but installation has been easy. No goo
     
  10. Oct 9, 2018
    mickeykelley

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    My thoughts are if I get it drip free, don't mess with it. For some crazy reason I don't understand, all the video, etc I see on changing the diff fluid even on these Willys, people take the covers off to drain. These things have a drain plug so just drain and refill. I get you should occasionally check the innards, especially if driving them hard, but my thoughts are the differentials in cars far outlive the vehicle and vast majority never have fluid even changed. So my game plan is to change fluid once a year and see if I see any garbage, then pull the cover. I don't know how many real miles Willie has on him, but the original locked up odometer said 15,000. The FSM says check level every 24,000 and I could find no mention of changing it out. I seriously doubt I'll put 24,000 on him quickly so maybe pull the cover in another 5-7 years but change yearly for longevity.
     
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  11. Oct 9, 2018
    jpflat2a

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    Only time it really needs to be changed would be carnage or water contamination.
     
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    TIm E

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    X2
     
  13. Oct 10, 2018
    70cj5134f

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    The reason to change at closer intervals, than 24K is ,
    This is a JEEP, the dif fluid usually gets ,NASTY, doing water crossings, playing in deep mud.
    And some of are a little OCD?
     
  14. Oct 10, 2018
    mickeykelley

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    The FSM just says to check the fluid level, not change it, which I found interesting. I would agree if doing lots of pushing it crawling, mudding, etc., it's a good idea to change with some level of regularity. It's not expensive and with the drain plug, it's pretty easy so once a year or so for me.
     
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    70cj5134f

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    A drain plug? What's that?Don't believe mine has?
     
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    FinoCJ

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    Guess it depends on what you are talking about - neither my D27 nor my D44 has drain plugs. Have to open the cover and let it drain out the bottom or go for a pump out the fill hole method.
     
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    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Mine has one- looks like it's never been opened & would break a 3/4" drive bar if you tried it.
     
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    mickeykelley

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    On the under side of both the front 25 and rear 44 are drain plugs. Then use a 1/2" ratchet (meaning the are female) to take out. Here is pic of front but rear is same. Maybe yours is coated in grease and muck? Also notice no drip now that I redid it with RTV.
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  19. Oct 10, 2018
    71CJ54WD

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    With or without gasket doesn't matter, just get a coat of rtv or motoseal on surfaces and go. Also, unless you get water in the differentials (raise the breathers before this happens) you could change the fluid daily or after 30,000 miles and see the same result.
     
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    FinoCJ

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    wish mine had those - although I pump it out using a small hand pump. I change mine a bit more frequently than some - mostly because I go through a number of deeper water crossing every summer. Of course, when you pump it out, there is always some fluid left in the bottom, and when its oil water mix - its the water that stays in the bottom - so I pull the covers every few changes to drain all the fluid.
     
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