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Died a mile form the house.

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by manden68, Sep 2, 2004.

  1. Sep 2, 2004
    manden68

    manden68 Member

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    My Jeep died at a light last night. There I was waiting at the light when all of a sudden nothing. It wasn't running any differently, like it was needing gas. It just died. I attempted to restart the jeep immediately but nothing. I just flooded it. A friend just happend to be behind me and helped me push the jeep out of the intersection. I poked around and 5 minutes after cursing the damn thing it started up with a cloud of smoke.
    So I'd like to know why?
    I recently replaced the starter (unrelated), the fuel lines, both fuel filters, the fuel pump, the ignition module. And last night I replaced the coil of my HEI. I checked all 6 plugs and they were all in good shape and none of the spark plug wires were loose.

    Would a bad HEI coil cause the jeep to stall out at idle or would that only affect the initial start up?

    Could I be getting too much psi from this fuel pump? Do they make regulators for these things? The 2G is getting about 5-7lbs of pressure right now. My old pump was putting out 3-5psi.

    Could my timing be off? But wouldn't that affect the V6 all the time? I need to buy a timing gun. Or head down to Billy's and have him dial in my carb and timing.

    Thanks for any info. Hopefully replacing the HEI coil did the trick. I'd hate to be stranded down here with Frances upon us.
     
  2. Sep 2, 2004
    H8PAVMNT

    H8PAVMNT Rub his head for luck

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    HEI module?
     
  3. Sep 2, 2004
    manden68

    manden68 Member

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    The ignition module and coil.
     
  4. Sep 2, 2004
    H8PAVMNT

    H8PAVMNT Rub his head for luck

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    Chile cheese fries?
     
  5. Sep 2, 2004
    mruta

    mruta I drank with Billy!

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    Did it die slowly or did it die like someone turned the key to the off position? If it died immediately like someone turned the key off, 99% of the time it's an electrical/electronic problem. HEI ignition modules die out without notice usually. I think it's wise to carry a spare since they are small and you are FUBAR if you are in the middle of nowhere and it dies.

    Bad module= you're walking
     
  6. Sep 2, 2004
    James P. Enderwies

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    Yup, module. The one in my Yukon died when I turned the corner onto my street. Lucklly, it's slightly downhill to my house. Of course, it happened on a Friday night. Was 4 days without a car. :(

    That's why I bought my Jeep--a spare! :)
     
  7. Sep 2, 2004
    JohnyJeep

    JohnyJeep BLOWING A XING NEAR U@2AM

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    I have to agree that it's the module too. Sometimes after they cool down a bit from sitting then it will start back up.
     
  8. Sep 2, 2004
    blevisay

    blevisay Oh Noooooooooooooooo! Staff Member

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    Bring it here....maybe in a day or so......Let me know If I need to bring the trailer......
     
  9. Sep 3, 2004
    manden68

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    Thanks for the info but I replaced the module five days ago. I replaced the coil yesterday so I hope that's it. How long do these modules usually last? I now will carry a spare one all the time. They're relatively cheap and only take 10 minutes to drop in. I love HEI. Thanks for the offer Billy.
     
  10. Sep 3, 2004
    Hill

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    somewhat related

    One of the "critters" uses a minivan engine in it. You could call it a "jeep" it is 4 wheel, anyway..... We were out goofing off and it quit exactly like you discribed. In the middle of nowhere... I don't give up so easy. Dead module, and it is in the distributer. Okay, now what?? Need something that works like breaker points. Sparked the coil and it was good, and started thinging about this pulley on there, 4 spokes and running at camshaft speed. Coincidence??? Bent a hose clamp until it touched the spokes, and stole a condenser off the alternator. Hose clamp was on a rubber hose so it was not grounded. Took a few adjustments but finally the engine would run, speed was not possible as the "point" would bounce pretty bad. It got me home, over some fairly rough wheeling. Necessity is the mother of invention, but carrying a spare module makes perfect sense to me. Add in the pickup coil, just for giggles.
    -Hill
     
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  11. Sep 3, 2004
    manden68

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    Yeah I think I'm going to carry both a module and a coil.
     
  12. Sep 3, 2004
    blevisay

    blevisay Oh Noooooooooooooooo! Staff Member

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    Marc a bad tach will also short out the coil / module
     
  13. Sep 3, 2004
    manden68

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    Really? My tach just stopped working! Hmmm. I'm going to unplug that damn thing and not run a tach right now. I wonder if that was the problem? Damn. I'm going downstairs and unplugging that thing right now.
     
  14. Sep 3, 2004
    James P. Enderwies

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    Marc: Remember to put a good coating of that "module grease" or "heat sink grease" on the mounting point of the module. I've seen them fail in 2 days because of the lack of it.

    DO NOT use "dialectric" grease--it's an insulator.
     
  15. Sep 4, 2004
    manden68

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    Really. I was kind of sloppy when I put that new module on. I wonder if I just junked one module by being sloppy. Damn. Well I'm now in the market for a new tach. And I guess a new module. I thought I should handle that mod carefully...
     
  16. Sep 4, 2004
    James P. Enderwies

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    Marc: If you didn't put the "heat sink grease" under it, by all means do so. It will save your module.

    Don't let your FLAPS give you "dialectric" grease--won't work--in fact it will make it worse.

    The REAL stuff will be marked "Igintion Module Grease" or "Heat Sink Grease".
     
  17. Sep 4, 2004
    manden68

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    I actually used the grease that came with the module. Where else would I use heat sink grease? I'm thinking of buying some and cleaning up that last project.
     
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    James P. Enderwies

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    Marc. If you used the grease that came with the module, you're OK. They didn't use to include it.
     
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    manden68

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