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Dana 44 Overhaul

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Elvislives, Apr 29, 2012.

  1. May 9, 2012
    Elvislives

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    Thanks Nick. Also happy the site is up and running.
     
  2. May 9, 2012
    djbutler

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    X2 on the site. I was starting to have withdrawal symptoms....

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  3. May 9, 2012
    Elvislives

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    The oil slinger mystery is solved. I've been fretting this little thing for over a week and finally figured out where it fits. It sits on the front bearing (yoke side) with the cup side resting on the bearing. Any other way and it either won't fit or it will be distorted when the pinion nut is tightened. No, it's not a crush washer. It's an oil slinger. :)

    I used the bearing removal tools from extremecustomparts on the carrier and pinion and that was way too fun. Three bearings off - poof - 5 minutes. Making up my set-up bearings this weekend. Already made a set-up race so I'm good there. Grinding on this metal takes awhile. Don't want them sloppy I think, just snug and easy to remove so i don't damage the shims. Glad i don't make my living on this, I'd be living under a bridge.
     
  4. May 13, 2012
    Elvislives

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    homersdog

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    great links, thanks elvis.
     
  6. May 14, 2012
    Elvislives

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    Another question guys. The pinion seal has a sort of dust shield attached to the OS face. Looks like a big washer with a lip out at the pinion. The new seal from Randy's didn't have this and they don't know anything about a dust shield. If I install as-is I think the pinion shaft & seal lip will be slightly exposed. Not sure i have a choice other than to go with what I've got.
     
  7. May 14, 2012
    nickmil

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    I think I know what you're talking about. The old seal was metal on the outside and the rubber was not exposed? No problem there, the new seal is just different designed.
     
  8. May 14, 2012
    Elvislives

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    Exactly. You described it well. Thanks Nick.
     
  9. May 15, 2012
    Elvislives

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    ok, so the machine shop charged 15.75 to press my pinion bearing. i'm good with that. One step closer to assembly.
     
  10. May 17, 2012
    Elvislives

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    ah, so the pinion nut bearing preload of 10-20 in/lbs is without the carrier installed? If true, why don't the specs state a total preload as well? Or am i in a confused state?
     
  11. May 17, 2012
    Elvislives

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    and the machinist said to use a black magic marker for checking the pattern. said it works great. Hmmm.
     
  12. May 17, 2012
    grannyscj

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    Preload would be inaccurate with the case installed. You would be measuring friction of the case as well as the pinion. I suppose a black marker would work. I've never used one. You will need very clean teeth or the marker won't even mark though.
     
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  13. May 22, 2012
    oddfirejeeper

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    so how did it go roger?
     
  14. May 22, 2012
    nickmil

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    The pinion bearing preload is indeed checked without the CASE installed. The case is the part the ring gear is bolted to and houses the differential (side and pinion) gears. The carrier is the part that houses the drive pinion gear, the ring gear, the differential case, etc.
    If the case is installed It increases drag as was stated. Often times pinion bearing preload is set without the pinion seal installed for the same reason. Remember, we are talking about lbs. inch which is very very small. 12 lbs. inch equals 1 lbs. foot.


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  15. May 22, 2012
    grannyscj

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    Oops. I know better. Edit post complete. Must be the old timers.
     
  16. May 23, 2012
    Elvislives

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    once again. good information. thanks guys. Been traveling so Elvis sits without a rearend. Hoping to get back on it this weekend.
     
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