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Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by alleycat3677, Mar 11, 2016.

  1. Mar 11, 2016
    alleycat3677

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    I'm sure it's been asked. Sorry. Not good at searching. Anyway....my clutch is starting to slip in second gear. Can I just replace the friction disk or do I have to spend a ton on preasure plates and whatnot? Also do I have to have the flywheel resurfaced???? I can limp it around for now but I'd like a good clutch. Single dad here with limited funds. Haha.
     
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    colojeepguy

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    I understand the single parent with limited $ all too well, but spend the money to do it right. Pressure plate, disc, throwout bearing & pilot bushing. Have the flywheel turned.
    You have to remove either the engine or the transmission to do the job and it's no fun doing it twice!
     
  3. Mar 11, 2016
    alleycat3677

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    I'm thinking pulling the trans would be easier. A buddy of mine said the same. Damn
     
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    Patrick

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    I would pull the trans. If you're doing it on the ground, you can just slide the back and drop them a bit.
    I would absolutely replace the disc, pressure plate, pilot bearing, and throwout bearing. Have the flywheel resurfaced. This is one of those "you can't afford not to do it right" situations, in my opinion.
     
  5. Mar 11, 2016
    alleycat3677

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    So I'm almost sure my 225 is a 71. What kit would you guys recommend? This will be my first clutch instal. Can't imagine it's too hard. Just time
     
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    Patrick

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    I would order from Rock Auto, and get a Luk, or a Sachs.
     
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    jpflat2a

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    what Patrick said....
     
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    Focker

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    I think I know the answer, but I'll ask it anyway.

    My clutch hasn't been an issue, but since my engine's out of the jeep...Should I replace the clutch?
     
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    Walt Couch

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    Have you checked the adjustment on the clutch? Do you have freeplay on the pedal? If you don't drive this jeep much you may get by for quite a long time by just adjusting.
     
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    Twin2

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    do as said above . the secret to clutch replacement in a early . at least for me is . remove shifter or top of transmission
     
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    Glenn

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    You couldn't ask for a more opportune time. At least pull it apart and check it out.
     
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    47v6

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    Yes.

    I used a 10 1/2 inch chevy clutch kit from a chevelle on rock auto. I see that the specs for a 1971 jeep with 225 are different part numbers than that chevelle. I know that the pressure plate/cover will bolt right on to a dauntless flywheel. I cannot comment on the friction /driven disk as my transmission is an SM420. The specs for the clutches are the same as far as I can see. Someone here can chime in if they are truly interchangeable for whatever transmission is in your jeep and may offer some savings on price. I paid 84 bucks for my complete kit. There is a chevy kit as low as 65 bucks now.
     
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    PeteL

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    All the above is valid, and good advice.

    It's also true however, IMHO, that just a friction plate and throwout bearing could be adequate for a very long time under normal use, if the pressure plate and flywheel are 'okay enough.'
    I have never resurfaced a flywheel, for instance, and it's never been an issue.
     
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    uncamonkey

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    If your cluch slips in 2nd, it must be worse in third. Easy things first. Check your clutch adjustment. If that isn't rright, it's time to replace the clutch parts. as long as you are in there, change/ fix everything. Sort of like insurance and it saves you from having to wrassle some heavy greasy parts later to replace some part.
     
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    SFaulken

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    I generally go to centerforce for my clutches. But you pay for them (~$500 for a clutch kit for the dauntless), I've just never had one go bad, and gotten extremely good life out of them.

    That being said, if you don't want to spend a small fortune, the Luks or Sachs kits seem to be the go-to's for Stock type replacements.
     
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    Focker

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    That's a 5th of what I paid for my Jeep! :shock:
     
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    SFaulken

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    Heh, I doubt I'll ever have to replace it after I change it. That was pretty much the case in my '89 F250......
     
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    sterlclan

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    thats what the boys cost.
     
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    timgr

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    My opinion (and experience) - If you use your judgement and are REALLY short on funds, you can sometimes reuse the clutch cover. The plate is supposed to wear, so you have to replace that. The throwout bearings seems to routinely cause trouble, so I would always replace it too.

    You need to look at the parts closely. If the cover or flywheel have chatter marks or blue spots, they need to be replaced or refurbished. On the three-finger (Borg&Beck) covers, the pivot points can wear and be in danger of failing.

    So you can do it ... but only in the right circumstances. You have to have more time than money, since this job requires a lot of disassembly in order to get to the parts. Bad judgement will cost you a lot of time and effort. The use of the car figures into the equation too... your choices for a hobby car that won't see a lot of miles while you own it could be different from a car you depend on for transportation.

    Just looked - a Luk RepSet kit on RockAuto is about $100. I predict you will have a hard time sourcing the disk and bearing for much less than that. Again, money has to be REALLY tight to justify economizing on these parts.
     
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    PeteL

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    I concur.
     

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