Clutch Woes... Centerforce Clutch

Before i dig into my clutch. i repalced the hydro clutch MC cylinder, and after a little tinkerig i have about and inch and change of throw with the slave. But i am not getting the clutch to disengage. I checked the fork and it is in place correctly and the throwout bearing is new, as well as fork and pivot ball. So i am having problems with the clutch operation. It isnt the tranny i put it in gear, then with the wife holding the clutch pedal down i try and push the jeep and it doesnt budge. When i put the jeep in gear and start the motor with the clutch pedal pushed in, you can hear the disc sliding on the flywheel, it doesnt stall the motor but the engine defiantely feels like it is under a strain to stay on. But when i put it in nuetral the motor idles fine. So I am pointed at the clutch assenbly. As with the other parts being new, the pressure plate is a new centerforce palte for the 225 V6, and the disc is a ford to match the tranny. the sizes match fine. I have a new pilot bushing and the flywheel has been resurfaced.

I have heard that certain centerforce items have trouble with each other. What should i look for?? Something is not giving here. I swear i have the disc on correctly because it is labled which side goes where. But i am completely stumped. This is a regular centerforce I setup.

Thanks for any help to get my jeep running

 

What was the stock parts you had to put back in?? Unfortuatnely i ened up losing my old clutch parts because i wanted to hav a total new setup. So i guess i should just get a new stock pressure plate then get the stock ford disc. Does this sound right. Yup i guess we are in the same boat. Reallky does suck that this is happening, at least i know my hydro system is fine.

 

I used the centerforce database to pick out my parts. I used the 225 pressure plate nad then used a ford truck disc. I then ordered it through summit. The plate and disc were 10.5 inches, they both matched and botled up fine. Only thing i can think bout is the disc maybe wrong, maybe i should have used a car, there are so many differnt disc (it looked like it) for the ford spline and diameter that i jsut chose a truck. But then again that really doesnt have anything to do with the pressure plate being engaged unless the centersection of the disc was too large and hidnered the disengagement. So I wonder If i should get a stock 225 pressure palte and keep the cetnerforce disc or vice versa

 

I was jsut talking to a buddy of mine and he suggested that the disc is too rough from manufacture and that if it wears down it will behave accodringly. This also makes me think the ford truck disc may have been a little thicker than the ford car disc so i do indeed may have to wear it down a little. I jsut have to watch out and not overheat anything.. So i will try this tomorrow. and see how it goes.

 

HHHMMM I had a suggestion on another board that i shorten the fork. I am wondering if i can drill a hole in the fork closer to the inside, or would i have to remove th efork and cut and weld it??. Supposidly the reason is the fork in hydrolic applications are shorter, given i do not know if that is truth or not.

 

I guess it is time to pull the clutch. I tightened fdown the clutch for a bit wi the slave cylinder to add some extra pull and it didnt solve it it is still the same situation. I am wondering bout the disc binding on the input shaft, i never thoguht of that. I do remember putting it on and sliding good. but i did have some trouble getting the tranny up into the clutch, i did align it, but it could have been off and when i forced the tranny into it could have binded it up. I wonder if i can just get a stock ford disc and not worry bout the centerforce disc if i bent the centerforce disc. Something just isnt right here. Now time to take it all apart

 

Looks like it defiantely may be the clutch palte or disc. i am trying to remove the tranny now and i cannot get it to come out at all. So i think i bent something putting it in I have to enlist a buddy to help me gt the tranny off. Boy is this a PIA But at least i can find out what is leaking in the front of the tranny

 

So what disc did you end up using?? Since the T18 swap is not a factory swap I cant goto an auto store and order up a kit for the tranny engine combo. So i can keep the centerforce pressure plate, but get a factory disc??

 

Thanks Posi!!! I will have to get the stock disc, i have heard the local stores wont sell them individually anymore, only in kits, so i hope that isnt the case. I will get one later today hopefully.

 

Well some sort of success. I called NAPA and got a disc ordered and i will get it in the morning. You know i think the problem was that i got the clutch disc for a truck, and looking at Lynns part nubmers he used a ford car. So the differnce maybe there. So I am crossing my fingers that maybe this will be the fix. Thanks for the help guys!!