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Cj5 Is It My Water Pump?

Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by Candace, Jul 26, 2019.

  1. Aug 1, 2019
    Candace

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    It has bucket seats. The backs are kinda low. Like they hit you in the shoulder blade area. They're kind of a darker blue color. There is a back seat, too. It's one of the extras he paid for. It just like drops in the back. It doesn't actually attach to the Jeep. Just rests on some bracket things. I do have the top. Its a big, blue, super square metal top with smallish windows. I don't know what happened to the doors, though. They got lost somewhere between when our uncle had it and I got it.
     
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  2. Aug 1, 2019
    Candace

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    Napa was the first place I called and they didn't have the pump and acted like they couldn't get it either. They're the ones that told me where to get it online...
     
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    timgr

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    You should have four brackets like this for the back seat. The seat brackets should have a spring loaded pin that locks into rearmost pair of brackets.

    As I recall, there were only two upholstery colors for 1972: black and buff. No blue. However, Jeep was very cooperative in this era about off-list changes, so it's possible. Could also have been installed by the dealer, since there were blue seats in earlier years and they could have ordered as parts and installed on site.
     
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    Candace,
    From your pic's , that water pump has been replace before. If the fan is ' wobbly' like the others said, that's the bearings in the waterpump, but it's not the original. You do need to replace that one , but I hate to be the bearer of news : I think Grandpa had that one replaced at some point.:shrug:
     
  5. Aug 1, 2019
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    Tim, by Transitional I mean that 1972 was around the time when conventional interweb opinion says AMC changed from short snout pumps to long snout. Maybe Jeep engines were equipped from the start with long snouts, I couldnt know. But there are apparently some 1972 AMC V8 engines in cars with short snout pumps?
     
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    timgr

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    Just responding to Chilly - not meant to stir up any controversy :confused: for the OP Candace!

    Ya know, I don't know for sure. The record I read is far from clear. :study: Considering just the V8 water pumps (all 304-360-401 the same within years), the '62-73 J-series catalog says that all the V8s through '73 use the same pump, the 812 0130 that I listed previously. The '74-80 all-models book says it's a 812 5131. Both of these numbers are covered by GMB, but they claim the transition is after 1972, not after 1973. Who is right? I'd guess that 1973 is that transitional year you refer to, and the J-series catalog was printed late in '72. Mid-year change? This is Jeep Corp. so maybe...
     
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    Hellion

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    GO CANDACE, GO! :clap:

    Can one slide a thin piece of cardboard, plywood, rigid plastic or sheet metal between the water
    pump and the radiator to protect said radiator cooling fins while one works?

    Waiting for pics of the old pump next to the new.... [​IMG]
     
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    timgr

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    Sure. I have a special tool - a piece of 6mm plywood (old Siemens crate top) - that I use for this and for laying across the engine of my J-trucks.
     
  9. Aug 1, 2019
    Candace

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    Seats were definitely not black or buff. even if you take fading into account. In the pick they look sorta gray. But they were definitely like a blue-ish gray color at one point.

    The back seat sits on these bracket things inside the wheel wells. Just sits there. Not connected securely at all.
     
  10. Aug 1, 2019
    Candace

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    Candace

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    The radiator seemed so easy to remove, I just did it. Four bolts and the two hoses and it slid right out. NBD. Yay!
    I'm getting to the pump now.
     
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    Candace

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    Candace

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    Well, I hope some things were replaced. He had it 16 years before he died. And I heard some crazy stories about where he took it.
    Everything just looks old to me. IDK.
     
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    What does the odometer say? The water pump has definitely been replaced. Doesn't mean anything - could have been a reman, and remans can be good or c**p. Engines and parts did not last as long then as they do today. The original engine color is that metallic blue-green that the rest of the engine is painted.
     
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    Pity, timgr, that they rarely paint engines anymore.

    Clear, crisp photo. A beaut.

    'Beautiful' in that you can tell what everything is under the hood. And voila, there's the engine.
    Not hidden either by a big slab of black plastic that says "Jeep #.#L"
     
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    Candace

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    I've looked for instructions, but maybe it'll be faster if I just ask you, how do I loosen the belt?
     
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    Candace

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    Right? And all the plugs are in lines like they're supposed to be. Not like my Blazer. WTF? Plug behind the tire? Ugh. Ya. And not a lot of electrical or computer stuff to mess up. It looks like an engine is supposed to.
     
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    Candace

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    20190801_184532_resized.jpg 20190801_184636_resized.jpg I was loosening the three I circled but now I'm thinking that doesn't seem right. The instructions said to loosen the adjuster bolt and the component mounting bolts then push it toward engine to get the belt off.
     
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    timgr

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    The adjuster bolt is the one in the slotted hole. You need to loosen that, or just remove it. You'll also need to loosen the pivot bolt at the top. This will allow you to loosen the fan belt and remove the belt. The third bolt holds the bracket to the engine - no need to loosen that one unless it goes through the water pump.
     
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    Candace

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    Ok...that's what I was doing...loosening them just didn't seem to be doing any good. Can still barely move it. Def not enough to get the belt off.
     
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