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Built 1960 Cj5- $7,495

Discussion in 'eBay and Craigslist' started by IRQVET, Nov 14, 2019.

  1. Nov 14, 2019
    IRQVET

    IRQVET Member

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    homersdog

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    It is a nice build. It looks like he cut off the lip around the openings on the front fenders, but it is well done.
     
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    Jw60

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    There are a lot of little things that aren't right.
    Shackle reversal on the front, spring over, 2" of drop in the bellybutton. Then dana 25 with ross steering still? and f134... I don't think it will be very fun on road.
    it looks decent but way too much has been jacked with and I don't see added value.
     
  4. Nov 14, 2019
    ITLKSEZ

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    “Right” is in the eye of the beholder. :twist:
     
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    Jw60

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    Very true.
     
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    There is just too much stuff thats "off", the biggest is the windshield angle. Though I like the springs, the spring over just doesn't look right. I somehow find the lack of front fender lip disturbing. There is just a lot of details that I don't like. Why isn't there a skid plate on the oil pan, I could go on an on.
    This one doesn't work for me. Maybe its the OD wrap.
    -Donny
     
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    Oldriginal86

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    The cut out makes the front of the fender look too long.
     
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    Twin2

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    shifter makes me wonder . 3 forward + 1 reverse = 4 speed
     
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    Jw60

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    The Transmission skid is on backward.
    Front bumper is in front of the frame without any top or bottom attachment.
     
  10. Nov 15, 2019
    Don X

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    Fenders can be replaced. If it has a 4-speed behind an fhead we're probably talking about a T98A which would be well worth it...however, like said before it looks like a T90.
     
  11. Nov 17, 2019
    masscj2a

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    I don't know, I kinda like it. Like it better with Dauntless and T18 or t98. Like the stance and lines, maybe not SOA but 2 1/2 springs and one inch body lift with 33-1050x15 tires. Oh crap, I just described my 70.
     
  12. Nov 17, 2019
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    "Right" truly is in the eye of the beholder. When I looked at this build, I tried to imagine what the owner's intended purpose was for it. After looking at the pics, his purposes and mine are completely different. I'm absolutely no ones judge, but I wouldn't be interested in driving that anywhere the way its currently set up. For one, I'm personally not a fan of springover conversions using stock width axles. Anytime you raise the center of gravity without increasing width stability suffers. Now, if the intended purpose of the vehicle was just to go down the street on Sundays to get an ice cream that'd be one thing; even then I'd at least upgrade the brakes. Personally, it doesn't work for me as a trail rig.

    I don't have any guesses on the fenders; maybe his originals were trashed and these were better than what he had. They're different but I wouldn't say they're a dealbreaker to make it go down the road again.

    I have a T98 in a 2A behind an Lhead. The dead giveaway on a T98 is the factory adapter between the bellhousing and transmission. I couldn't tell from the pics whether the adapter was visible or not.

    The backward skidplate is kind of a head scratcher; maybe there was a good reason?

    It looks like he added an aftermarket heater in the original heater location. Kudos for that. The original heater wasn't all that great.

    Having done my own bare frame builds I do appreciate the time and effort one must dedicate themselves to in order to complete something like this, and hopefully it turned out the way he wanted. I'm more of a dual purpose guy, using a 70/70 build principal. I (generally) shoot for 70mph on the highway (with L and Fheads excluded:)) and at least a 70:1 crawl ratio. And again, I'm no one's judge but for my intended uses for a Jeep I'd have built differently.

    At the very least, he kept some old iron running again.:)

    FWIW,
    Mike
     
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    IRQVET

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    That is a very refreshing point of view. I agree the SOA conversation is no bueno.
     
  14. Nov 25, 2019
    Hônes

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    I’m all in favor of SOA when it’s done well and as mentioned before, with wider axles. High steer tie rod and drag link is also part of doing it the right way. I’ve seen so many tie rods hanging out below the springs just waiting to get hit but thankfully many aren’t going to be on the trail; just done for looks only. Wider front axle on a CJ usually means moving at least that passenger side leaf spring outboard of the frame rail to clear the diff...Can be done right but takes some work beyond just getting the springs bolted above.

    It would appear the builder has taken many of these right steps from the photos aside from widetrack axles. Good looking work is what I see and I’ve done several SOA conversions.
     
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