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Brake Lights Not Working

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by GeorgeL, May 22, 2016.

  1. May 31, 2016
    GeorgeL

    GeorgeL Member

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    Hi Glenn.
    Yes alĺ my lights worked fine.
    The wiring is a bit of a mess.
    Yes it is a key ignition.
    It has plenty of tied off wires, cut wires and badly joined wires.
    Man, if I could say here what I want to say it would make you blush.
    Yeah I know you guys will thilnk its not much but this jeep was supposed to be in A1 condition when I bought it so I wasn't expecting these "minor" problems.
     
  2. May 31, 2016
    GeorgeL

    GeorgeL Member

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    Its good to have a moan!
    Just ge watching Deadliest Catch on the worst seas ever.
    What the hell have I got to moan about.
     
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  3. Jun 1, 2016
    Walt Couch

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    I would begin by removing every un-connected wire and start fresh. If you don't have any added aftermarket junk on your jeep you will be surprised at how few wires there really are.
     
  4. Jun 1, 2016
    GeorgeL

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    Good idea Walt, thats my job for the weekend.
    Thanks for that.
    George
     
  5. Jun 1, 2016
    Glenn

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    I agree. It sounds like a mess you need to correct, and maybe learn just a bit too. First thing though is disconnect the ground cable that goes from the battery to the frame. Do you have a 24 volt system? 2, 12 volt batteries in series?
     
  6. Jun 1, 2016
    Focker

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    I've had to undo many PO's wiring in order to get a clean slate for things I wanted to add. It can set your project's time frame back for sure.
     
  7. Jun 1, 2016
    GeorgeL

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    Its 24 volt Glenn.
    Ive got the batteries out charging up at the monent.
    If the weather holds I'll have the jeep outside (no lights in the garage) and maybe unbolt the dash if possible to give me a clearer view.
    My Mechanic should be here Saturday but I do want to do more by myself.
    Whats frustrating is when I look at the hotch potch wiring.
    My old Landrovers wiring were easier as they were the original wiring looms and you had a better idea what went where and what did what.
     
  8. Jun 1, 2016
    uncamonkey

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    Damn, I thought I could get a trip to England out of this. I hope you learned a bit from your mechanic and pick up a service manual to help you.
    A lot of us have been working on wireing for over 40 years so, we tried to help. I wish I had a dashboard that would come out instead of the hours laying upside down on a seat.
    As always, pictures are needed.
     
  9. Jun 2, 2016
    GeorgeL

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    I did learn some things from my Mechanic.
    Firstly, buy an operators manual.
    Dont stress as nearly everything can be fixed.
    Be wary of re-wired vehicles.
    Keep the coffee coming.
    Keep the coffee hot.
    Keep calm and walk away when you dont know the cure to your problem. Think it over and go back to it.
    Make sure the wiper arm blocks are the correct way round and the wiper arms will work.
    Keep the coffee coming.
    As for getting behind the dash, I might remove the seats for more room. We'll see.
    Im waiting for Jeep Parts U.K. to reopen on the 6th June to order a fuel and oil gauge.
    Unca, you can come to the U.K. any time you like, we need your tourist dollars.
    PeteL will be your guide to the bars.
     
  10. Jun 2, 2016
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    If you can drop the steering column down a bit this might work for you for wiring access-

    [​IMG]

    Replace the bottom corner mounting bolts with some 6" 'ers, that allows the dash to slide back & tilt out at the top.

    H.
     
  11. Jun 2, 2016
    GeorgeL

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    That looks nice, clean and organised!
    Me and it
     

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  12. Jun 2, 2016
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    It does? Looks like a rat's nest to me. :rolleyes:

    It's a reproduction stock harness I installed; I did add a few circuits but as everything is fresh it may look better than something that's been few a few previous owners.

    H.
     
  13. Jun 2, 2016
    PeteL

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    Very nice George. You do know, don't you, how many people would give their left gonad for a venting windscreen like yours?

    Where was the picture taken? Can't be England, it looks sunny.
     
  14. Jun 3, 2016
    Focker

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    Nice Jeep!
     
  15. Jun 3, 2016
    GeorgeL

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    That sunny day was our summer Pete, have you forgot?
    It rained the next day.
    Whats so special about a vented windscreen?
    Its just more draft coming in.
    If anyone wants to buy the windscreen it will cost you $17,000.
    For that you can have the the jeep with it.
    You dont have to give your left nut, just give me your money!
    Then I'll get a M38A1.
    Offers invited but no nuts!
     
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  16. Jun 4, 2016
    GeorgeL

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    This is the offender.
    Stray wire from ignition switch.
    Jeep wouldn't start today, my Mechanic busy elsewhere today.
    I cant see where it attaches to.
    WTF!
     

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  17. Jun 4, 2016
    GeorgeL

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    Offender is the wire with the tape attached.
    Yes Im on the beer.
     
  18. Jun 4, 2016
    Glenn

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    What is that stuff all over the back of the switch?
     
  19. Jun 4, 2016
    PeteL

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    It appears to be on the "Accessory" output terminal. AFAIK, this one powers circuits that are only active when the key is "on." Could be almost anything, but probably not horn or lights, for example.

    But if the jeep won't start, power to the coil might be a good bet.

    Other than that, you will have to trace it to it's farther end to know what it does (or did).
     
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  20. Jun 4, 2016
    Walt Couch

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    I see the switch terminals for BAT ACC and possibly the ON but no starter. Is there supposed to be a stud directly in the middle for the starter that is broken off?
     

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