1. Registration trouble? Please use the "Contact Us" link at the bottom right corner of the page and your issue will be resolved.
    Dismiss Notice

4wd Is Broken

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by jeepstar, Oct 23, 2016.

  1. Oct 23, 2016
    jeepstar

    jeepstar Well-Known Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Sheboygan
    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2006
    Messages:
    2,754
    So....im fairly certain my 4wd is broken. I was stuck in a little mudhole. The back tires were spinning, i put it in 4lo and then was still stuck.i had to winch myself out. What if anything can i check to see if something is broken? I dont want to pull the tcase.

    Dana 18 mated to a t98 to a 134
     
  2. Oct 23, 2016
    Focker

    Focker That's a terrible idea...What time? Staff Member

    WA
    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2014
    Messages:
    7,540
    Dumb question, but I have to ask...Did you lock the hubs?
     
  3. Oct 23, 2016
    47v6

    47v6 junk wrecker! 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    USA
    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2006
    Messages:
    5,798
    If you indeed did lock the hubs, maybe the front driveshaft splines are worn enough to spin? Happened to me before...
     
  4. Oct 23, 2016
    jeepstar

    jeepstar Well-Known Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Sheboygan
    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2006
    Messages:
    2,754
    Warn lockouts, spun over to lock.
     
  5. Oct 23, 2016
    Focker

    Focker That's a terrible idea...What time? Staff Member

    WA
    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2014
    Messages:
    7,540
    47v6 brings up a good point...Is the front drive line turning?
     
  6. Oct 23, 2016
    jeepstar

    jeepstar Well-Known Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Sheboygan
    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2006
    Messages:
    2,754
    I suppose. Time to get it up on jackstands.
     
  7. Oct 23, 2016
    Norcal69

    Norcal69 Out of the box thinker 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Northern California
    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    3,549
    I just had this problem, I had 1 hub that was not engaging due to bent springs. Warn Hub Springs

    I found that the sliding gear inside the hub housing was binding due to the bent guide springs. I was able to eventually get it to work but opted to replace the hubs.
     
  8. Oct 23, 2016
    Daryl

    Daryl Sponsor

    Bonney Lake, WA
    Joined:
    May 25, 2006
    Messages:
    2,871
    2 bits says that 1 or both hubs are not engaging.
     
  9. Oct 23, 2016
    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    Apopka, Fl
    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2002
    Messages:
    12,367
    Or nothing is broken is another option. Were you by yourself? Chances are the front differential is open and when you put it in four wheel drive only the right front tire was spinning. Getting stuck and then putting it in 4WD is a lot of times too late.
     
    Alan28 likes this.
  10. Oct 23, 2016
    Alan28

    Alan28 Well-Known Member 2022 Sponsor

    Châtillon en...
    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2012
    Messages:
    2,327
    Very clever, differential is noty always a friend.
     
  11. Oct 23, 2016
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

    Albertville, AL
    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2002
    Messages:
    5,349
    Yep, power always goes to the wheel with the least traction!
     
  12. Oct 23, 2016
    Twin2

    Twin2 not him 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Virginia Beach, VA
    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2011
    Messages:
    5,407
    easy test . put in 4WD . jack up rear end only . with a roller jack . see if jeep will move
     
  13. Oct 24, 2016
    nickmil

    nickmil In mothballs.

    Happy Valley, OR
    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2002
    Messages:
    12,529
    Or put transfer case in neutral, lock in the hubs, and see if driveshaft will turn. If yes something in front is not working. Then unlock hubs and engage 4wd on transfer case and see if driveshaft will turn. If yes transfer case is not engaging properly.
     
  14. Oct 24, 2016
    jeepstar

    jeepstar Well-Known Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Sheboygan
    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2006
    Messages:
    2,754
    I know it isn't safe, but I was stuck anyways, so I left it in gear when i got out of the jeep to hook the winch up to a tree. the back tires were spinning, but not the front ones. driver or passenger side.
    when I get home tonight I will put it up on jack stands. and go from there.

    I hope its something cheap and easy to fix.
     
  15. Oct 24, 2016
    Focker

    Focker That's a terrible idea...What time? Staff Member

    WA
    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2014
    Messages:
    7,540
    Maybe it's related to the "pinging" engine issue? :p
     
  16. Oct 24, 2016
    jeepstar

    jeepstar Well-Known Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Sheboygan
    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2006
    Messages:
    2,754
    har har. no, that was something else. the pinging has been resolved.
     
  17. Oct 24, 2016
    jeepstar

    jeepstar Well-Known Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Sheboygan
    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2006
    Messages:
    2,754
    So, jeeps on jack stands. I put the hubs in "lock". Driveshaft spins, tires dont. What can i check next?
    My warn hubs are brand new, and seldom used since my heep seldom sees off road
     
    Last edited: Oct 24, 2016
  18. Oct 24, 2016
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

    Albertville, AL
    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2002
    Messages:
    5,349
    The hubs themselves. They may not be installed correctly or the splines are not engaging.
     
  19. Oct 24, 2016
    jeepstar

    jeepstar Well-Known Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Sheboygan
    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2006
    Messages:
    2,754
    Well, took both lockouts off. They are fine and work as they should when i manually turn them from 2x4 to 4x4
     
  20. Oct 24, 2016
    jeepstar

    jeepstar Well-Known Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Sheboygan
    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2006
    Messages:
    2,754
New Posts