Willys Motors, They are for real, I own one. VIN #8305017360056. It was first puchased in Colorado Spings, and the owner took delivery of it on 8-15-1969 from Johnson Pontiac GMC Jeep. It came with the original envelope (post marked 8-18-69) with the owners manual, air polution manual and maintenance plan manual which has the owners (Roy) signature,VIN # date of delivery, home address and a stamp of Johnson Pontiac Inc. When I contacted Roy about the Jeep, his first statement was that it was a special jeep, a "462" model. His best friend (Dave) worked for the dealership, and called him to come down and see it. Roy purchased it that day and drove it home. Roy went with me to pick it up in Woodland Park from the fella he sold it to. He had not seen it since 1999, and could not beleive the 2nd owner(John) had painted the outside blue but the interior was still President Red. The seats are red and white striped with the narrow striped patteren of 1969. Roy said that all "462" exteriors were red with solid black, solid red, black and white stripe or red and white stripe seats. Options on the "462" were the same as the Renegade 1, except for the color, no sun visors or dash pad. Items the "462" has that the Renegade 1 did not, were full size stainless hubcaps on H70x15 Goodyear Polyglass Red Line tires and a tapered not a flanged axle. I hope to have it back in running condition with a new red paint job by August, so we can take it back to C.S. for a few trail rides with Roy and Dave. I am sure there is another "462" that is owned by "OverEngineered", exactly like mine with black striped seats. He still has the white Whitco top on his, original paint, 28,000 miles and a Goodyear spare! He plans to bring his to C.S. as well. By the way, his VIN # is 8305017360041, 15 before mine! And tell Bill N., hi.