1967 CJ-6: First Build

i guess yea its like that. I got it from home depot off one of their big rolls

 

Saw that, Mike. Looks great...The edging detail is what makes the difference.

Gonna check it out...

 

That carpet looks good. Did you have trouble with it getting wet from road spray since the carpet is underneath the shifter cover?

 

yes! I just tested my home-made vehicle speed sensor and it works! (so far). I never had one installed. I thought they weren't necessary.

The idle improved. I was using the laptop with the software to read the rpms being read by the ECM. It was around 700-800 rpms when I eased into a right turn into another street. Previously, it was around 550 rpms and felt like the motor was on the verge of stalling. I hope it's not fluke and keeps running this way. Gonna drive some more...

Here's the finished product...

 

Are you running an anti-wrap bar? And if not are you having any axle wrap issues? thanks

 

no bar...that's one thing on the list. I haven't paid much attention to it and don't launch it on take offs to notice but I'm assuming the axle wraps. When I was pushing/turning a rear wheel to move the jeep, I can see the pinion turn up a little bit. I made my perches extra long and put a good amount of offset to the bottom shock mounts to help a bit. I also set the pinion yoke a couple of degrees down from its ideal position. Eventually, I need to buy or build one.

 

hey dbl r
nice job. whats the name of the jeep shop you refer to? can never have too many sources. next time you go to rohwer maybe you could organize some of us locals. its a fun place, i dirtbike there alot.

 

man, the place closed down. it was the only place to get old parts that was minutes away. craigslist wasn't around then. the recycler didn't have much (although i found my '6 in the recycler). the only other option was to drive to scotty's in fontana. i drove by the shop several months ago just to see what's up and it was gone. i doubt he relocated. the place was called "cj's off road" in northridge. he had a good inventory of used parts and specialized in jeep work. i have a hunch that he changed his business to transmissions because there's a place several streets down called "cj's transmissions". maybe i should drop by the tranny shop and see if he's the same person...wonder if he still has jeep parts.

there's supposedly a 'jeep only' junkyard in sun valley. i've only heard of it recently and haven't checked it out. i use to go to scotty's in fontana but they're expen$ive. what city are you in?

that'll be fun to get a few locals to do a rowher run...not sure when i'll head up there again. I'll definitely let you guys know...but feel free to arrange something, if you have a date in mind. have you been to the miller trail? i've never been but been told that it's a good one also. i guess it's close to opening again any day soon...

 

I love a 6 with full size axels

 

Hey double r how much total narrowing do you have going on in the rear? This winter I'm going to get the ball rolling on a rolling chassis for my jeep and I was wondering what your WMS is on the axles and what back spacing you are running on the rims. I work at a junkyard so a dana 70 and 44 front will be easy for me to get a hold of. I am thinking about narrowing both axles 3-3.5 on each side. I'm aiming for the look of your CJ6 since the tires and width look perfect.

 

I'll get some meaurements when I get home later.

What I did with the 14 bolt rear was swap the hubs to dually hubs, which required moving the brake backing plates. It moved the wheel 2 inches on each side. Then I recentered the rear wheels about 1.5 inches each, just enough that there's plenty of space left between the drums and the rims. I have to check what backspacing I ended up with.

The front is basically Wagoneer width since I swapped axleshafts from a Waggy and narrowed the housing accordingly. The rear wheels have different backspacing than the fronts...I couldn't recenter the fronts because the rim will hit the tie rod ends.

 

I'll have to see how wide a cab and chassis 14b is, hopefully in the 6-7" narrower than full width range since that is about perfect. I'm thinking about just cutting the front housing 3.5 inches on each side and having the shafts cut and splined.

 

This is the info I have...

My 14b was 67" WMS narrowed to 63". Then the d44 front went from 69" WMS to 60.5". Then an extra 3 inches was removed from the overall track width of the rear by the re-centering.

The rear backspacing is 4.5 and the front is 3.

It was confusing trying to figure out the sweetest backspacing, wms, wheel width, tire width, stickout, track width, etc. It was much easier for me to begin with how much I wanted the tire to go past the side of the tub then go from there. I wanted about 6-7 inches of tire stickout from the tub...what I ended up with is approx 8 inches. Only reason I went through the extra work of narrowing the axle width was because I had planned on driving on the street and didn't want to get pulled over. At the same time, I didn't want to narrow too much. I'd also thought about just cutting to the width I wanted and then re-splining the shafts. That'll work too. Disadvantage is that you have to maybe get an extra set resplined as your spares. I stuck with axleshafts that are out there...easier to replace.

Are you outboarding the springs? you can also just cut the long side of the front axle if you aren't outboarding. http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axle/conv/dana44/fsj-cj/

I don't know about dana 70s, but if you were gonna go 14b on the rear then you'd save some time just getting the 63" to begin width. One thing to keep in mind though is that the dually hub moves the wheel mounting surface in...make sure you get tires and rims that'll be farther out than the hubs, otherwise the axleshaft flange will be more exposed to hitting something outside.

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by the way, there weren't any tube chopping or axleshaft cutting/resplining involved when I narrowed the 14b...Spindles remained where they are...just had to move the brake backing plates by 2" on each side.