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1964 Cj3b Build. My Second Jeep.

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by Buildflycrash, Aug 25, 2019.

  1. Nov 24, 2019
    Buildflycrash

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    I got 95% of the yellow off the outside.

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    and 5% of the black off of the inside.

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  2. Nov 25, 2019
    Buildflycrash

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    Paint is flying off the dashboard. Not really hard to remove throughout the tub except the corners are a bitch.

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  3. Nov 27, 2019
    Buildflycrash

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    This corner was plenty ugly.

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    cutting back for new corners.

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    This will be lots better.

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  4. Nov 29, 2019
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    If the new metal is going behind the existing. Make sure you fill the lap so moisture is keep out. Can not tell by the pic exactly how the lap is made
     
  5. Nov 29, 2019
    Buildflycrash

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    I had it up there for marking (and photo). The new did go behind the old. Got a couple more welding and grinding spots to go. Then another photo tomorrow.
     
  6. Nov 29, 2019
    Buildflycrash

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    This isn’t perfect but will definitely be better.

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  7. Nov 30, 2019
    Dne007

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  9. Nov 30, 2019
    Dne007

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    Sorry, mine had to be made a little taller due to the damage.

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    Over the welded seam, I used bondo with fiberglass first followed by regular body filler, then the fine filler, then when happy shot with 2-3 coats of epoxy primer. (normally would have been build primer, then followed by epoxy)
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    then color followed by a matt flat clear coat.
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  10. Nov 30, 2019
    Buildflycrash

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    Made some progress on the corners.

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    weld thru primer

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    weld it in.

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    It’s getting closer

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  11. Nov 30, 2019
    Buildflycrash

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    I welded up a bunch of holes all over the tub.

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    Thru the floor pedals are gone. I need to figure out what I’m doing for hanging pedals.
     
  12. Nov 30, 2019
    Dne007

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    Nice! Now I’m curious about the hanging pedals;)
     
  13. Nov 30, 2019
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    Just got caught up on your progress- nice work! I also enjoyed reading about your trip out west in your 5. Regarding your 3B, IMO you've selected a great engine for a Jeep. I've ran EF Buick V6's for a long time and they have treated me well over the years. I know you've already buttoned up your engine but hopefully you'll permit me to share some insight with you regarding it's potential. Just like most all engines from that time frame, the 3.8 had been choked to death by the emissions standards just like all the others. If I remember correctly yours was rated at about 110 HP in its stock configuration. There are some really simple things you can do to a stock 3.8 that it will respond well to without burning a hole in your wallet.
    1. The cam timing was retarded from the factory so if you have an aftermarket timing set installed with straight up timing you've already gained some advance right there.
    2. The distributor was a GM HEI (which is good), but make sure you have one for a non computer controlled carb, and by what I could see from the pics it looks like you have the right one. However, the engine responds well to a recurve. Most carb shops or hot rod shops can recurve your stock distributor to bring the advance in at an RPM range more suitable to your intended usage, I.E. if your engine is going to spend its whole life between 2500-3000 rpm and your distributor doesn't bring all its advance in until 4200 rpm you're missing out on a lot of free performance. I have mine recurved to bring all the advance in by around 3000-3200rpm and it makes a very noticeable difference. The last one I had recurved cost me around $40 if I remember correctly.
    3. Ok this one isn't necessarily cheap but it does increase the performance and that's Novak's headers for the Buick V6. You can check with Warloch on this one; if I remember correctly he helped design them. <EDIT> I forgot to mention that these are dependent on your steering setup. They don't work with Ross steering.

    There are many other mods available to this engine platform. They share piston design with the Buick 350 so there are performance options there. Camshaft options abound from mild to wild. The heads respond well to porting and bigger valves. Different carbs and EFI abound. Aluminum intakes help in the breathing department, but the factory used a single plane design so dual plane intakes like the Edelbrock don't help much. Personally, I like the factory single plane aluminum intake found on the 252 (4.1L) Buick found in the 80-84 Caddys and some of the larger Buicks.

    Buick V6/231 Buick carb manifold, 1979 and up 4 barrel | eBay

    My other favorite is the Kenne Bell Number One. TA Performance bought the tooling from Kenne Bell and produces them, although they haven't advertised it. I know this because I had them do the heads on the 4.1 in my 47 and Mike was kind enough to give me a tour of his shop and I saw some there.
    Buick V6/231 Buick carb manifold, 1979 and up 4 barrel | eBay
    This is a higher flowing intake and although it has a higher rise than stock it still fits under the hood of a Jeep; I believe I read that Warloch runs one of these too.

    IMO these engines are great for Jeeps because they're compact, easy to work on using GM parts, accept many different transmission options, weigh less than a 4.3, and with a good radiator and a stock fan with clutch its hard to overheat them.

    You did a great job building your 5; looking forward to following along as you finish building your "B". But, a warning; those flat fenders are going to set you up to a different level of "Jeep Coolness":)

    FWIW,
    Mike
     
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  14. Dec 4, 2019 at 7:37 AM
    Buildflycrash

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    Got one step replaced last night.

    Cut off old step without cutting the support.

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    The hat channel was toasted so will have to get replaced.

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    cleaned up and weld thru primer added

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    TaDa!

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  15. Dec 4, 2019 at 10:27 PM
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    Its alot of work, but kinda rewarding at the same time especially when the sheet metal is all there and you have that confirmation "thank gawd" moment! (y)

     
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  16. Dec 4, 2019 at 10:39 PM
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    You’re doing what I should’ve done to my 3b although I believe our uses will be slightly different (y)
     
  17. Dec 4, 2019 at 11:18 PM
    Buildflycrash

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    Putting all this work into engine and running gear swaps, Ill wheel it hard as I can
     
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  18. Dec 7, 2019 at 5:20 PM
    Buildflycrash

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    Full Stop on the 3B project.
    I sprayed some more primer and painted the inside with rust converter.

    Built a little frame

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    and covered her up.

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  19. Dec 7, 2019 at 5:38 PM
    Buildflycrash

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    The wife has wanted one of these forever.

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    ‘74 Super Beetle Convertible.

    A chassis, a body and a lot of bins full of parts. I paid $1000 and it will need a couple thousand in parts. The top costs like $3000 installed. Not that I’ll be able sell it after but these go for $20,000+ restored every day.

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    This new transmission cost more than I paid for the whole project. (Stored in a carport at the beach)

    my engine.

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  20. Dec 7, 2019 at 6:08 PM
    Dne007

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    Looks like an interesting project;)
     

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