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1957 CJ6 + 2000 TJ = ? (Building a CJ6)

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by don87401, Nov 24, 2013.

  1. Jan 24, 2017
    tarry99

    tarry99 Member

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  2. Jan 24, 2017
    don87401

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    I had the winters in the CJ5 thought about that style again just liked the Lokar look for this one.
     
  3. Jan 25, 2017
    don87401

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    More shifter work, working on the shifter ends of the cables and routing. The cable you will see just sitting there is for the KluneV and I had planned to just run it through the boot the other cable come out of. But I changed my mind and will drill another hole like the Trany shifter and run it through a grommet instead.
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  4. Jan 26, 2017
    tarry99

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    Looks Good.........those cables can get tough to reverse directions........whats it look like from below?
     
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  5. Jan 26, 2017
    don87401

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    I will see about getting underneath but the only cables right now hooked up at both ends is the atlas.
     
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  6. Feb 19, 2017
    don87401

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    A few more little things done.
    Jeep Air combo heat/AC unit fitted it up.
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    A M.O.R.E. JK dual batter tray fitted in and mounted. I used just he tray, there were other brackets that I didn't use that make it work in the JKs.
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    Home made support brackets.
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    Cross brackets for the Shoulder harnesses of the 4 point harness.
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  7. Feb 19, 2017
    rejeep

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    any design reason why you didn't center AC/Heat?
     
  8. Feb 19, 2017
    Focker

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    Looks like he had to clear the shifter.
     
  9. Feb 22, 2017
    Long&Low

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    a lot of beautiful work going on there
     
  10. Feb 24, 2017
    don87401

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    You got it, choose the shifter first. It also moves the hose/a c lines off to the side of the engine not behind it at the fire wall.
     
  11. Feb 26, 2017
    givemethewillys

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    Keep up the good work, I'm looking forward to more updates!
     
  12. Apr 13, 2017
    fesser

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    I think I know what your saying but I am not sure...With the low gearing he may be braking against the engine as if it was a manual transmission that was in gear? If so, I don't get the part about the lower speed converter. I thought the transmission would sort of drop out (for lack of better words) at lower speeds, like downhill, with a higher stall converter.

    Do you think your old setup would have been more driveable if you had not run the 4:1 kit? I ask because my most recent plan for my CJ6 is to run the 700r4 and NP241 (with the slip yoke eliminator). Tires will likely be no bigger than 32's and differential gears are staying at 3:73. I sometimes run with other Jeeps and would hate to build in the in-between zone that you experienced.
     
  13. Apr 13, 2017
    montanacj

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    I hadn't seen this before nice build.
     
  14. Apr 16, 2017
    don87401

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    On the breaking I have a 2006 LJ Rubicon with a rubicrawler and the 4:1 Tcase. When I am using LOW/LOW I usually leave the Auto in drive so if I need to stop while crawling and it is trying to drive through the brakes I only have one "click" of the auto's shifter and I am in neutral and no more "drive" so the stock brakes work then. This Jeep also has 4.88 gears.

    I didn't like the gearing in the CJ5 on the road/highway. It was between what is needed. It wasn't low enough to keep it from down shifting out of OD on a hill and to 3rd when it did down shift is was to low and the rpm went way up. I would rather have it slow down a bit then down shift to 3rd and and keep the rpms down a bit. So I am going with 4.56 on this one in the axles.

    I like the 4:1 tcase except when running easy trails with stock Jeeps. Either run in 4h and work the auto a LOT or drop to 4:1 and rev the engine more. Kinda of a toss up. But with a 2:77 KluneV, I can leave the tcase in H4 and use the 2.77 of the KluneV( is goes between the trany and tcase) and be very close the same gearing as a stock Jeep.
     
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  15. Apr 16, 2017
    don87401

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    Had some time while waiting on an enclosed storage are to be built to store parts as I get ready to take this apart again. So I killed some time working on a bumper for the CJ 6

    Base plate from A to Z Fab and 8274 winch mounting plate from TMR
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    Hood hoop from Blue Torch Fab. I didn't have the tube and is was cheaper to by the hoop than the tube to bend my self local. All tacked up ready to weld
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    Welded out ready to go to sandblaster.
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    76 to 80 era brake boster mounted.
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    Same era brake/clutch, steering mount bracket. Clutch pedal removed, running an auto.
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  16. Apr 27, 2017
    don87401

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    Worked on a few more odds and ends while getting ready to prime whats not primed and start coating the stuff I am going to bed line.

    Cut holes for Clock, Tach, and Trans Temp Gauage in the after market dash. Everything is Speedhut in the dash.
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    Cut hole for the sPOD switch panel.
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    Fab and added mounting brackets to the electric fan and shroud to fit the radiator and Grill.
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    Just another view from the bottom
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  17. Apr 27, 2017
    Focker

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    Nice fabrication.
     
  18. Jul 20, 2017
    don87401

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    I have been making slow progress, putting primer on as many parts as I can get my hands on.. I think now have every piece that is going to get paint primed. I have now turned to what I want to get bed liner coated and what I want to use. I plan on coating the rear tube fenders, quarter panel guards, front fender flares, rocker guard and both end bumpers/tire carrier. I had picked my colors for the Jeep a long time ago. I plan on using Jeep 2012 Winter Chill paint. (code BA, JBA) for the lower half and white for the upper half like in my avatar picture, same dividing line. The question arose what bed liner? Black or tinted to match the paint. My Niece who is much more artistic than the colored blind owner came up one weekend and we spent a couple of hours discussing what the Jeep should look like. We finally decided just blue and white no black on the outside (except the bottom and fender wells, tires. Even the bed lined pieces need to be the winter chill. Ok now what bed liner? Upol Raptor has been discussed on a lot of Jeep boards and FB, so maybe that is the answer. I have never use Raptor tintable before so I chose to do an experiment and see how it worked out, would the color stay close to the paint color went mixed and sprayed. I knew going in it would not "look" the same because of the texture and it would be a flatter shine, a different look but what about the color.

    I found an old piece of patio cover that was white like the primer and bought some Winter Chill paint, tint and some Raptor tintable. Below is the results of the test. I am not trying to convince anyone to use Raptor just putting this out there for people who may have had the same questions I had, maybe this will tell them which way they should go.

    Raptors instructions give you 4 ways to spray the product. I used the last of the four, and sprayed the liner with the HVLP gun. The paint was sprayed with the same gun. The paint is on the left, bed liner on the right in the pictures.
     
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  19. Jul 20, 2017
    don87401

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    Here is some of the parts that I have coated with Raptor tintable.
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  20. Jul 21, 2017
    masscj2a

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    Wow, nice stuff and looks to be a great build when done.
     
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