1954 CJ3b

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  1. Aug 3, 2017
    pfmg

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    We pulled the rear 44 apart, found a bonus, its got 33 spline 1.5" alloy shafts...think its time to rethink the tire size...thinking 38's now. LOL

    The ox locker and alloy shafts for the front 30 showed up, so we can put that one together now too.
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  2. Aug 3, 2017
    pfmg

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    The rear 44 ready to be sent out for welding.
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  3. Aug 3, 2017
    pfmg

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    Adding some old school cool to the build, and started restoring the Conferr storage seat.

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  4. Aug 3, 2017
    pfmg

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    Seat is completely done, cleaned up and reused the original seat covers, they look okay from 10 feet away, if I can find something close to it I'll have them redone and the fronts to match.
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  5. Aug 3, 2017
    pfmg

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    Axles are all done, custom rear 44, 5:38 1/2" thick tubes, ox locker, 33 spline alloy shafts, disk brakes. front 79 d 30, 5:38, ox locker, alloy shafts, warn hubs
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    I'm gathering the parts for a manual saginaw setup now, as well.
     
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  6. Aug 12, 2017
    Tom_Hartz

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    Great build and keeping it old school. I like all of the Con Ferr parts. I remember their place in Burbank Ca. what a neat shop.
     
  7. Aug 12, 2017
    47v6

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    The D44, Did you cut the tubes yourself? Di you end up welding them back together? Where did you send the axle shafts to have them shortened and resplined?

    This is cool.

    Thanks.
     
  8. Aug 13, 2017
    pfmg

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    I had a friend who rebuilds axles do it, he has done a bunch. He has a prof welder do the welding. The shafts were shortened at a local auto machine shop
     
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  9. Aug 13, 2017
    mortten

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    Those slotted rims may not work with disc brakes.
     
  10. Aug 13, 2017
    pfmg

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    They do, trial fitted them on my 3A with disks first
     
  11. Aug 14, 2017
    Mark Wahlster

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    I doubt 38" will fit with out a lift. You will loose quite a bit of turning radius even with the wider D-30 and you could run into problems in the back Wheel Houses if you get off camber much.
     
  12. Aug 14, 2017
    pfmg

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    If you cut enough sheetmetal anything can fit...but tires will be 32" skinny swampers
     
  13. Aug 17, 2017
    pfmg

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    Got the front axle in, but the steering is kicking my arse, I got most of the stuff from AA, and their guidelines for install are just stupid. I usually don't even look at instructions, but figured they might have something to say... thankfully I didn't follow them right off the bat, especially in regards to the box. THEY say to drill out the threaded box mounts and bolt through the box into their mount. Which in theory is ok, but the side of the box where the bolt head work rest is not machined, or really even flat. I'm no engineer, but putting all that uneven stress on the bolt head on something that sees the forces of a steering box just doesn't make sense. Had I just started following their instructions the box would be messed up. I'm going to do one bolt as they say, but will grind and file the surface flat. Going to have to rework the motor mount to make room for the shaft too.
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  14. Aug 17, 2017
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    Wow that looks good. Most of the 3's I see have the steering shaft thru the grill. Your's looks nice.
     
  15. Aug 17, 2017
    Warloch

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    I've used their stuff in the past, mounted my way as well. If you want - take a look at my site warloch.com and I should have the pics in the Saginaw thread here as well.

    I'm headed out of the country or would offer other pics. FWIW - I fit the manual box to the same bolt plate location as the power - so it can be changed in the future if needed. Power on the Red '51, Manual on the Blue '49 right now.
     
  16. Aug 22, 2017
    pfmg

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    This should work out well, i took the stock motor mount, moved it to the top of the frame and made an arm to go from it to the stock engine side mount. We removed the stock bracket that is riveted to the frame but left the holes in the frame, they are under the wedge. So this can be put back to stock very easily. Now the steering shaft has a clear shot to the box.
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  17. Aug 22, 2017
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    I like that. Well done.
    I'm not a fan of the angled mounts. I mentioned somewhere on here before that I had an engine spread the frame and shear the rubber mounts during a race once. Finished the race with the engine hanging from a ratchet strap.
     
  18. Aug 24, 2017
    Muzikp

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    That is genius level stuff right there. Great job.
     
  19. Aug 24, 2017
    pfmg

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    Sneak preview of the new rubber...and relocated motor mount is welded and painted.

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  20. Nov 14, 2017
    pfmg

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    Well this took way too long, but I’m Finally getting caught up, so i got the Saginaw steering installed, both axles installed, new master cylinder. I had someone set up the axles, and had to have the rear redone, first guy did a bad job. I Only redid the rear because didnt have the cash for the front right now, The Pro that redid the rear said The front at the least has too much pininon preload and the inside of the housing was dirty, he said dont run the front in 4WD it will ruin it, But i think I’m going to say, screw it and just run it around a bit, then drain the fluid and see how it looks.

    Its steers and stops real nice now, but my brake lights aren’t working, and I still need to install the lokar ebrake setup and find a place to mount the OX locker shifters, mount the Warn Belliview on the front

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