Replacing Oil Pan Gasket F134

I’m going to change the oil for the first time and I thought I would replace oil pan gasket since it’s leaking. I think it’s leaking unless it’s leaking from the main seal? Anyway my question is, do I have to take off the timing cover to replace the oil pan gasket? I’m worried about snapping the heads off the bolts as it is. I just snapped the head of a manifold bolt a week ago and finally reThanks

 

No, the pan bolts to the bottom of the cover.

If it is leaking from the rear main, then you will have to replace that also. If you suspect the RM, you might as well do that while the pan is off.
Insure you inspect the oil pick up while you are in there. Clean as necessary.

 

I agree. If the main is leaking I’d replace that too. However, from under the vehicle it would be a tough job. I did it with the engine on a stand and it was still difficult. I actually pulled the crank when I did mine. I suppose you could possibly wiggle the main seal in with the crank slightly out, but it would be a bear—in my opinion.

 

I’m hoping it’s not leaking from the main seal. That’s a little out of my skill set.

 

Replacement under the vehicle is doable and you don't have to "loosen" the crank with all but the most obstinate upper seals. There are a number of ways to get the upper out using pliers and/or picks. I'm sure there is a U tube video or two on the subject.

i would insure it isn't. Even then, you would be miles ahead to have the replacement seal set on hand when you open it up just in case. If you wind up replacing the rope seal with a neoprene one, insure the bottom cap doesn't have a stake in it to keep the rope seal from spinning. If it does, be sure to remove it.

 

Sneaky Pete. (No relation.)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/392279796069?_skw=sneaky+pete+tool&epid=1079631661&itmmeta=01JVAYHNGPTTJCFBQH0ZC3N364&hash=item5b55b2a965:g:ccEAAOSwWm1cuPqk&itmprp=enc:AQAKAAAA8FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1fEuYJvru4JzDFKCTBKawWgkB/fCyEeph45VXIx+FGISCuk4AZXBAmNWCcDqkVKecHHuokLZOvXAebyCY0IaG/oxpIjXmTbUJDSmX0pyfDsM1K16aH2irHLRc3RopGHAWpOE2i3UwT/ywrS2Gxj7p5YrWvAf4opQY+bS2FEavWgyHJNhVUqDT7/Xb/ixx9uQ+L0kyf20dAMZkmF9qgtcR5FthwqTbP9bdLf9DFN2Uu5a1Bl7OkwuLpABHxJB2dTO1jJriX/ND+tqARwAgzRVCsUmVpC+IOx3gwAbQoS4Gpc0w==|tkp:BFBMwNjG3tpl

 

Thanks you guys for all the great information. Thanks Pete for the information on Sneaky Pete, that looks like a handy tool. I’m probably going to order one. I pressure washed and scrubbed the engine yesterday and it’s pretty clean now. I removed the pan and I can’t tell if the main seal is leaking but I might as well replace it since I have the pan off.

 

I have found that a neoprene seal is easier to install when replacing it from under the vehicle. Otherwise I prefer a good quality rope seal..

There are a lot of poor quality neoprene seals on the market, some are too tight and burn up right away.

I have used a couple of the "Best" brand seals with good result.

Dan Sharon has them on his site.

https://jeep1942.com/?page_id=4123

 

I haven’t had a chance to remove the cap yet. I’m about to order the seals and I’m wondering where the two vertical seals go?

 

On the outer two faces, between the cap and the block.