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Jeep Won't Shut Off!!

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by M38A1 Dauntless, Jul 29, 2021.

  1. Jul 29, 2021
    M38A1 Dauntless

    M38A1 Dauntless New Member

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    Embarrassed to admit, but after the HEI install, went driving and it ran like a champ. But the part I didn't say, was that when I tried to shut it off with the key, it keeps running. On the cap, one connection says BAT, so I ran a wire from this to the battery. So I thought that must be the problem, they meant ignition, not battery. So I ran it to the middle post of the switch. Started it up, drove to work, F-ER WON'T SHUT OFF, so I jump out and kill the battery with the inline switch I put in there and it keeps running, because ya, it don't run off the battery after it starts.

    Do I have the wires going to the first two posts on the ignition switch reversed? Would this permit a connection and still have the starter start? It could be simple as that, but maybe I did something else wrong?
    Should be hot on #1 post, lights and hei (and one other wire there that i don't know but COULD BE A HOT WIRE) on #2 ,and starter solenoid on #3?

    It all worked with the old cap, tho.
     
  2. Jul 29, 2021
    timgr

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    You have something, like the alternator, back-feeding into the ignition switch. It's common for the alternator to be connected to the ignition switch via the exciter wire. The alternator makes it's own power - does not need the battery. What kind of alternator (or generator)? Check the wiring diagram.
     
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  3. Jul 29, 2021
    Jw60

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    The hei is typically just a wire going to the run or ignition terminal on the ignition switch.
    If it is on the accessory terminal with the alternator it will run on the power from the alternator.
     
  4. Jul 29, 2021
    Hellion

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    How'd you get it shut off, block off the carburetor inlet?
     
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  5. Jul 30, 2021
    sterlclan

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    You need a diode in the alternator wiring. If you don’t have an indicator light in the wiring it backfeeds.
     
  6. Jul 30, 2021
    M38A1 Dauntless

    M38A1 Dauntless New Member

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    Bump stopped it 2 times.
    Then yesterday I tried to kill it that way and it just kept fighting, had to use both palms to choke it off.
    Could I just put a toggle switch on the line to the distributor and just shut it off like an airplane magneto? That was my plan, today, take a 1/2 day vacation and splice in a switch.
     
  7. Jul 30, 2021
    jackdog

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    You need to find the wire that fed the + side of the old coil. Use that wire to feed the HEI. If there was a ballast resistor remove it or jumper it.
     
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  8. Jul 30, 2021
    ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

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    @M38A1 Dauntless If you need a diode, shoot me your address in a PM and I’ll send you one. I have a few leftover from my build.
     
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