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Set Of 'must Get' Mill And Lathe Items

Discussion in 'The Tool Shed' started by Warloch, Mar 5, 2021.

  1. Apr 5, 2022
    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

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    Well - with the delay for being out of town while visiting the middle boy outside Detroit - I got this BIG BOX delivered yesterday late PM...


    Actually - 3 boxes. The top two are the 'basements' for the base I bought for this thing...


    Now - a real question for those in the Know. What would stop me from putting this on a base with wheels? Assuming I'm smart enough to use the type that will allow for it to be set on the cement or locked for usage?

    Spinning mass should stay central with the cutting edges off the tool rest - am I missing something?

    I may think about something similar for the mill, expanding a side footprint so it won't tip, but that will need more thought IMOP and may not be practical as I'll use it more than the lathe.

    I'm just starting to really run up against space and am trying to think about machining as I need it. I don't want to bury them, but being able to roll out of the way and back out a bit for usage would free up some premium real estate in the shop floor.
     
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  2. Apr 5, 2022
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Unless your floor is even to > .001" every time you move it you'll loose the "level", i.e. your bed will twist. It may go back to where it belongs when you return it to it's spot, it may not.

    Probably not.
     
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  3. Apr 5, 2022
    47v6

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    The difference in temperature will create .001 difference. If you're not using the full length of bed, the difference in taper due to this wont matter much. The problem I see with it not bolted to the floor is the chatter you may introduce to your work. I suggest you find a nice spot to mount it and live with it there forever.
     
  4. Apr 5, 2022
    Jw60

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    It takes a small army to move these things so put it someplace you can use it and work with oversize items like in her parking spot.
     
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  5. Apr 6, 2022
    47v6

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    I move items that are in excess of 6K lbs on the regular. If you put it on a steel plate with a bearing wheeled dolly, its a one man endeavor.
     
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    Fireball

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    Unless you're moving it uphill.
     
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    47v6

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    Thats why they make pallet jacks or forklifts or the special gear reduction DC motor variable speed heavy mover I made.
     
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    Jw60

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    I guess a jeep could move em easily enough.
     
  9. Apr 6, 2022
    Warloch

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    The only spot she has left is the single bay on the house garage with her '66 Mustang in it... I can't move that without sacrificing all Willys points for the future, so that aint happening :D

    I did think about the full bed length, but most of my work will be with smaller pieces. I got this size for the diameter and through on the shaft so I could possibly work on steering shafts for adaptors in the future. I may have to pull a parts bunk out of the big rack on the side of the shop and mount it in there.

    Oh well - worth a thought...
     
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  10. Apr 12, 2022
    termin8ed

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    We just went thru this with our lathe at work. The center point was off center and ended up being a twist in the bed. Just depends how accurate you want to be. I didn't know any better so it didn't bother me. One of the other techs is a machinist by trade and he's the one it was driving nuts:gaah:
     
  11. Apr 12, 2022
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    I've got mine to within 3 thou and that was always good'e'nuff with the 3 jaw chuck but I've had a few jobs lately where I did need to get finer than that so never say never. Get it as good as you can and then when you need it get it better and put the 4 jaw on. :schooled:
     
  12. Apr 14, 2022
    Warloch

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    Got the 4 jaw chuck as part of the purchase - Still thinking about putting it on a rack with wheels and bolt adjust sets on all 4 corners. I don't need/want it out all the time, but may stake out a place to wheel it and set for adjustment on a job with it. I do have a couple possible spots for it along the wall, just not as clear and clean as I would like at the moment. Who am I kidding - nothing is as clear and clean as I would like at the moment :D Its still bolted to the bottom platform on a pallet sitting on a couple dollies so I can move it around till I set it up.

    The Lathe itself has 2 bolts in line at the head section and a single bolt point at the tail. This makes for a minimal footprint on the base as it is all single line and only a couple inches wide to touch a base/mount point.

    When I start with things I'll take some pics for folks to chime in on... lots o noodling and drinkin to figure this out I'm guessing.... or just an excuse to sip some nice Irish Whiskey in the shop.
     
  13. Apr 14, 2022
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    If you do put it on wheels, which I don't think is a good idea, build a good solid platform (preferably out of steel & concrete) and use three wheels- that will remove the tendency to twist that four wheels would cause.
     
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  14. Apr 14, 2022
    Warloch

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    Hadn't thought about 3 wheels - IF I go a mobile route it will be with 2" square stock and 1.5" DOM for the structure. I built the steel work table (@4'x6'x1/2") with that and it's solid with the adjustable feet. The move part would be to put it out of the way and then put in a spot for usage after going through the 'leveling and trueing' I would need for the project. I also agree that I'm not sure its a 'good idea', but I've not 'killed it yet'.

    What I really need is a 'machine shop'... but I don't think I can get that by the other half. For some reason she thinks my shop and two 'sheds' are enough. The other thoughts are to start moving some things out of the main shop to create the space I want/need for the mill and lathe now.
     
  15. Apr 15, 2022
    47v6

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    I have a "machine shop" in my basement. Its not a "machine shop" in the traditional sense, I guess, But since it exists to make lots of one off parts for a buisiness and has paid for itself probably 100 times over, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it qualifies.

    As far as my wife is concerned about having a shop in the basement.. well, she likes to eat, have nice things and get the bills paid.

    My Lathe is a Clausing 6330. ~13” or so.. I put it on level concrete set of pads with anchors. It doesn’t take up much room since you don’t have to manipulate parts around it. It’s all linear.

    the mill on the other hand takes up so much space . I use it to machine parts and drill all my holes now. I can make very accurate bolt patterns now with the DRO. 8591264F-7076-4CA9-AB92-41BC9C2ADC5E.jpeg
     
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  16. Apr 15, 2022
    Warloch

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    I "wish" I could use the 'it allows us to eat' argument, but I make my living with computers and all of this is "Fun for now, and retirement". I have always welded and fabbed and its the most enjoyable part of building these old rigs IMOP. Retirement is going to allow me the time to make some 'standard' items to help other enjoy these rigs. I've already got my neighbor's CJ5 to use to build a set of standard brackets for hanging pedals for folks. I'd also like to build some of the adaptors I hand made when I fit the stock steering wheel on a new column and Saginaw box for Jim's 3B (only standard quality and not so much hand fit)... Just fun stuff like that.

    Its been years since I had access to a mill or lathe so have a lot of 're-remembering' to do. Got DRO on both setups to help.
     
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    Mcruff

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    I have moved my mill 3-4 times now with nothing more than a pry bar and 4 pieces of 3/4" galvanized pipe, it weighs around 1950lbs.
     
  18. Apr 15, 2022
    Mcruff

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    I leveled my lathe and mill with a Starrett 15" master precision level, .0005" per foot for 1 tick on the bubble, got my mill and lathe within a .001" overall.
    I can't afford one of these levels as they are about $1200 or so, I borrow the one from work.:D

    Chuck, the problem with putting the lathe on wheels is they are very tippy when you move them, all the weight is in the bed and head stock, nearly 3' off the floor.
     
  19. Apr 16, 2022
    Warloch

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    Had a buddy and his son-in-law over this morning. They helped me clear some shelves out of an area next to the shelf bunks - its one of the two places I was thinking it would go. Seemed to fit pretty good and it may become it's permanent home. It would allow me to build a set of shelves over it and put some LED lights in to work with.
     
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  20. Apr 21, 2022
    Keys5a

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    You’ll be much happier with the lathe set up in one spot. They aren’t supposed to be “portable”. Take your time getting everything levelled.
    -Donny
     
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