Tuxedo Park colors?

I was at a British Car show on Easter Saturday in Jupiter Florida, and there was beautiful light yellow (prairie gold?) Tuxedo Park V6 just outside the main gate. Is this a stock color for a V6 Tux? Anyone on this list own this one?
I know the 4cyl column shifted '64/'65 Tuxes pretty well. They only came in red, white, light blue, and light green. These had some interesting top/upholstery color combinations that made them special.

What original colors were available for V6 Tuxedo Parks, presumably '66/'67 model years? I have searched, but can't find much info on the later versions. How late was the Tuxedo Park model made?
Maybe its time to get a definitive list of what equipment and fittings a real Tux should have?
I still have the '65 my dad bought new, and was with him when he picked it up from the dealer. I grew up with this one, and know virtually every feature that was original to it from new. The V6's are a bit different, so I'm no expert here.
Can we start with the production run from the Mark III (only '63 in Indian Ceramic?), through the last year of the Mk IV model, and the colors used over the years?
-Donny

 

I have a 1966 tux, confirmed it by vin number and by what was left of the tux specific parts. Mine was a yellowish color.

I will see if I can find anything real quick on other colors or if it went to 67


I got a few other sites to add
https://web.archive.org/web/20080325080844/http://www.film.queensu.ca/cj3b/Poster/CJ5A.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20080415090026/http://www.earlycj5.com/tech/general/Tuxedo Park/

I have a scanned copy of the 1964 parts guide also that I got from the old site way back. It seems you can still download this using the second link. The second link is what the site used to be like back in 08, we have sense switched servers and such. This also has a lot of good v6 info among other things, seeing how you are a relatively new member.


so by the few places I looked it was made till 67, I don't know if any members here with a 67. I do know a few members with 66.

 

Thanks Piffey,
Its interesting to hear yours was yellow too. I suspect the '64/'65 Tuxes were only red, blue, white, and green. After the introduction of the V6, the color palette expanded to a few other colors?
I have seen most of your links, and I have 5 or more period factory brochures featuring the Tux, but mine are dated from '63 to '65. I haven't seen much info for the '66/'67 versions. Its interesting to see the production numbers by year that you linked- I haven't seen that one!
I too have seen several '66 models over the years (including a '66 titled as a '67), but never a '67 Tux.
Any more documented late Tuxes, and other original colors?
-Donny

 

There are several of us here with 1967 Tuxes. Mine was built January 1967 (by the vin number) and it is white with the F134.

 

Using Piffey's links, the 5a production figures show 4128 built for '64, 1987 for '65, 1190 for '66, and 89 built for '67. This makes the '67 a pretty rare Tux! No wonder I haven't seen any! From this link, it looks like the CJ5a Mark IV was built from '64 through '67 model years.

As for 5a colors so far, Presidential Red ('63-'70), WhiteCap ('63-'65), Sierra Blue ('63-'65), Parkway Green ('63-'65), and Prairie Gold #413 ('65-'70) are known with reasonable certainty. Three out of five colors were discontinued after '65, so what colors were used for the ''66/'67 Tuxes?
My paint books for Kaiser Jeep show a total of 12 colors (6 of which are metallics) used from '66 to '70, with only a few like Spruce Tip Green, Raven Black, and Presidential Red extending back to '63. What colors were used on "universals", let alone Tuxedo Parks for the later years ? Many of these colors were used on other Jeeps like trucks, wagons, and Commandos. Does anyone have any CJ Jeep or Tux specific brochures showing colors for '66 and '67 ?

Mike's white '67 Tux is likely Glacier White #395 ('65-'70). Mike, do you have a trim tag to confirm?
Does anyone else know any other '66/'67 confirmed original Tux colors?
I've seen a medium metallic blue, probably Empire Blue, on a possible Tux before, though it only had some 5a trim. I never confirmed the VIN or paint under the hood though.
I also have seen a black Tux about 15 years back, but dismissed it as a non-stock respray. Maybe it was original ? It sure looked good!
Any more info ?
-Donny

 

my 1966 cj5a is a light blue. factory paint still on it.

 

Strvger,
Is your '66 a metallic light blue (Empire Blue #385), or a solid light blue (Sierra Blue #222/322) ?
Empire is a '66-'70 color and Sierra is a '63-'65 color. Do you have a trim tag with any of the above numbers?
When was the build date or serial # of your Tux?
I know lots of '64s are titled as '65s.
Thanks-Donny

 

My 66 6A was originally yellow. The trim tag is gone now, but I may have an older photo showing it.

 

I have 67 tuxedo park--color is Presidential Red

 

The Prairie gold 67 tuxedo park at the British show is mine. To the best of my knowledge it was a factory color.

 

My '66 Tuxedo Park is yellow (Transport Yellow?)
Seen a few others the same bright yellow on internet pictures.

 

Is there any evidence that there were ever any special "Tuxedo Park" colors? I do not recall such a restriction. This was a Renegade thing. "Indian Ceramic" was a regular sales brochure color, IIRC.

If not, then it's just a matter of what the customer wanted and what the dealerships ordered. There were several fleet colors that could entered on the order sheet, including Transport Yellow and Omaha Orange. AFAIK you could always order black or white as a fleet color, even if those colors did not appear in the sales brochure.

Also, black is not a great color for a CJ because -when it's clean - it shows every wave and pimple in the body. Recall the painter on "American Hot Rod" Greg Morrell (who now seems to work for Chip Foose) had a 49-ish Ford shoebox woody painted black ... likely to show off his perfect body prep and painting.

 

Indian Ceramic was a Tux MK lll color, I believe unique to this model only in 1962/3. It was available again as late '65 and '66 model years, according to my paint books.
I have several (or more) period print advertisments and Kaiser Jeep sales brochures for the early (pre-'66) Tuxedo Park MKlV, before the V6 models were introduced. The "color selection" page features the four colors previously stated, along with the contrasting soft top/seat combinations.
For instance, a Parkway Green body could have a Sylvan Green top or white top, and only a Sylvan Green interior. A Presidential Red body could have a black, white, or red top, with either black or red interior. White Cap paint had the exact same combinations available as Presidential Red.
Sierra Blue Tuxes could have tops in white, Nordic Blue (lighter), or Parade Blue (darker), but only came with a Nordic Blue interior. These seem to be very model-specific to set the Tux apart from regular CJ5s, though Presidential Red was common on many Jeeps. I believe Sierra Blue returned later for the Rennegade l.
Its interesting that that the early MKlV Tuxes with the F134 all seem to have come with the column shift T90 and were limited to these four exterior colors.
My literature dated 9-65 introduced the V6 option for both the CJ5 and Tuxedo Park, and for the Tux, this "features any one of five bright new exterior colors to mix or match the convertable top and upholstery", though it doesn't list any specific colors. I have documented Prairie Gold (yellow) and Empire Blue, and Glacier White, and Gold Beige Poly used on V6 (later) Tuxes so far.
They also introduced the "new" foam bucket seats at this time, with the picture showing the raised horizontal bar (like the previous drivers side) mounting the passenger seat.
Does anyone know of a factory original column shift Tuxedo Park made after Sept/65 ('66 model year) or later? I suspect they were all cane shift after this point.
Any other V6 Tuxes in original colors other than those discussed above?
Note to Beach66Bum: Transport Yellow is a darker shade than your Tux appears, and is listed only as a '58-'63 color for Jeeps. The only yellow available for your year was Prairie Gold.
-Donny

 

Mmm. I kinda think it's Transport Yellow, from the avatar pic. The lighting and the camera and the screen change the color.

Here's an example -



This is Transport Yellow, or close to it. It's a very pure shade.

If you are in doubt, Auto Body Tool Mart will send you the Kirker chip chart free of charge. Kirker Paint Sample Color Chips: Auto Body Toolmart
Includes Transport Yellow.

Well, apparently I am mistaken. Valspar sells this color in implement paint Amazon.com: Valspar 4431-07 Transport Yellow Tractor and Implement Paint - 1 Gallon: Automotive

Kirker sells Viper Yellow and Performance Yellow, neither of which are exactly like Transport Yellow.

 

Interesting. I always just assumed there were only certain colors available with the Tuxedo Park option. I also assumed the one in the listing had been repainted as I did not think a dark metallic blue was a Tux color. I have only seen, in person, the white, red, blue (light to medium blue, non-metallic), and mint green. And 1 Mark III in Indian Red Ceramic. Never saw a yellow one, or a black one.

'67 is definitely a low production number year. All together I think there were fewer than 7500 Mark IVs made through the '64-'67 run.

I'm thinking a Tuxedo Park forum might be an idea for this site. Not sure how active it would be though. Seems to me that if there were anywhere on the WWW for such a thing, it would be here on ecj5. Great place to organize all this information.

 

My '67 was originally Prairie Gold.

 

Tim, I checked out the Amazon link you posted, and the label does look like the bright yellow shown on the Ghia and on Beach66bum's, but I still disagree that this is a true version of Transport Yellow used on early Jeeps. I have access to volumes of old paint books at a friends body shop, but I do have in my collection several Jeep-specific paint chip pages for our early Jeeps. The specific one I am referencing is Martin-Senour Paints "Willys/Jeep" which has a chip for Transport Yellow, code 81. This shade is a darker yellow, close, if not the same as school busses and taxis, back in the day; much darker than the example on the Ghia.
Dave, Your numbers on the Tuxes are about what I have too; 87 units for the '67 calandar year (375 for model year Sept/'66 to May/'67), and 7419 total units for the total production run of Tuxes. My production numbers are based on the data Zoomer linked a while back. I don't know if this data is strictly 8322 prefix, or both 8322 and 8422 for the CJ6's too.
I've gotta figure out how to post photos sometime to show some of my brochure info. I've got a limited data plan, and don't want to exhaust it on photo sharing sites. PM me if there are some shortcuts.
-Donny

 

Transport yellow from the '57 paint chips

 

Thats getting closer! My chip still looks a little darker, maybe a touch more orange. Code 81? I know of at least 3 variations for Omaha Orange, code 135.
-Donny

 

When you get it out in the sun it is more orange than it looks in the pic.