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air cleaner & heater replacement options

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by jawake, Jun 5, 2010.

  1. Jun 5, 2010
    jawake

    jawake New Member

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    I was wondering what alternatives where out there in regards to a standard oil bath air cleaner, and the original heater.

    My heater is shot, found a mouse den/cemetery. I have a working air cleaner, but was wondering if there was a oil free option.

    Any suggestions would be appreciated.

    Thanks!
     
  2. Jun 5, 2010
    SIDSCJ

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  3. Jun 5, 2010
    jawake

    jawake New Member

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    Thanks for the reminder, I just don't seem to have much luck with searches, but following your link was very helpful.

    I am not opposed to the oil bath, I may just keep it, but wanted to know what options are out there. I have not seen a whole lot. Not sure I like the cone option. Dumb questions, what is the air horn?
     
  4. Jun 5, 2010
    SIDSCJ

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    Sits on top of the carb, what the rubber hose to the oil bath attaches to. My buddy found a K&N cone shaped filter that fit right on over the open end. A little more carb noise now, not that you can hear it much at road speed though.
     
  5. Jun 5, 2010
    unclebill

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    summit 28000 btu heater
    keep oil bath

    IMHO
     
  6. Jun 5, 2010
    jasonjp62

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    I agree with bill here
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  7. Jun 6, 2010
    colojeepguy

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    An oil bath air cleaner is quite restrictive, although it's a very good air cleaner. I'm sure a little more power could be had by switching to a different type.
     
  8. Jun 6, 2010
    jasonjp62

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    Personally I don't think they are that restrictive. I played around on mine one day with pcv pipe and a cone style filter stuck out the cut out on the hood. Never noticed any real difference. I wheel mine in some dusty muddy aria and think I will keep the oil bath. It is amazing to see the junk the oil picks up. Impo
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  9. Jun 6, 2010
    colojeepguy

    colojeepguy Colorado Springs

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    My Jeep died on me one day at the top of Mt.Bross (14,172 ft elevation). Definitely an "Oh s**t!" moment! I took off the air cleaner & it fired right up. Put it back on-it wouldn't run. Back at lower elevation (10 or 11 thousand feet) it would run with the air cleaner on. That was my lesson on the restriction of an oil bath air cleaner. Now it's in a box in my attic. I had to change it out anyway when I put the Holley TA470 carb on.
     
  10. Jun 6, 2010
    pilebuck

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    Iam keeping the oilbath myself.The stock heater is gone put a 2 speed summit on.It also cleared room on the firewall and under the dash were i mounted the fuse panel for my ezwire kit.I might be the new spot for another battery where the old heater was.
     
  11. Jun 7, 2010
    jawake

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    Thanks everyone for the summit heater replacement suggestion, I think that is the way to go. The oil bath may end of staying as I am not high in elevation and should not be a problem.

    I was asking as I am in the process of restoring the frond end, and I am painting the firewall of the 1960 Willys CJ5. Hence the air cleaner and heater questions.
     
  12. Jun 7, 2010
    Eaallred

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    A properly maintained/cleaned oil bath filter would not have done this. I wouldn't blame the filter for that.
     
  13. Jul 10, 2010
    makindue

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    Can you post some photos of your shot heater. I just wondering what happen to it. :D
     
  14. Jul 10, 2010
    53A1

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    This is what I did on mine. The cross over tube is original and the adapter is a 2 to three inch plumbing adapter from Home depot. The air cleaner is from Autozone. It looks and works great. My carb is a little different because it's the military style but one could probably come up with another solution.

    [​IMG]
     
  15. Jul 10, 2010
    timgr

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    I wonder if the K&N achieves its low restriction by reducing the effectiveness of filtering. I have read of K&N owners testing their oil and finding a higher silicon content than when using a conventional paper filter.

    Intuitively I'd think you could reduce the restriction of a paper filter by simply using one with larger area. The paper filter with a foam wrap is a good setup for a Jeep - this is what Jeep used from the factory in the '70s. I made a foam wrap for both the CJ-6 and the J20 with one Moroso filter wrap... easy and effective.
     
  16. Jul 11, 2010
    jhuey

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    x2. I have always questioned what K&N claims. All filters become more effective the dirtier they get, that's when you get a restriction. Oil bath would seem more consistent throughout its use cycle. Larger filter area and the foam wrap makes good sense.
     
  17. Jul 12, 2010
    Rralphs

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    Piggy backing this thread.
    Last week I went to clean out my oil bath filter off of my v6. I discovered that the thing has two chambers. The top one where the oil goes and a bottom one that seems more like a resonate chamber. If you look from the carb side it looks like there are passages going side was to the bottom chamber and a round tube going to the top. I suspect the bottom is for noise reduction. Except it was full of gunk.

    I cleaned it put it back on and refilled the top with oil. Next day no oil. No obvious holes that would leak the top to the bottom. I don't think I should keep adding oil as I don't think the bottom should have oil.

    Am I wrong.
     
  18. Jul 13, 2010
    Strider380

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    For what its worth. I went with a cheaper summit heater instead of the more expensive Mojave heater. The blower motor completly smoked out in 2 or 3 yrs. I was really lucky and found a basic exact replacement motor on Ebay for 20 or 30 bucks. Wasn't able to find it ANYWHERE else. Just my 2 cents
     
  19. Jul 14, 2010
    Totalhavek

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    The K&N filters do allow fine dust to pass through the filter but it doesn't seem to bother the larger engines.

    several people on another Polaris RZR forum have claimed that the K&N filters destroyed their engine. I use K&N on all my on road vehicles but a good quality paper filter is the way to go if you want to catch the fine dust. IMHO

    I have the oil filter but took it off because it seemed to get oil all over the manifold.

    UMP makes good quality housings that take a Donaldson paper filter. Very good set up but more $$ than a simple filter.
     
  20. Jul 14, 2010
    Kman

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    We used to run the K&N filters on our dirt track car. We used the spray on them and the outer wrap and dirt STILL got through. We would pull the air cleaner top and the inside would be covered with dirt. I'm not to impressed with the K&N filters.
     
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