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antique, & classic plate questions

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by boilermaker154, May 22, 2010.

  1. May 22, 2010
    boilermaker154

    boilermaker154 jazz

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    i would like to keep my project as close to factory as i can but i would like the jeep to be a little more driver friendly. if i put disc brakes on the front can i still use a classic or antique plate in pa. same with power steering. and if i keep drum brakes but upgrade to the 11" will it be enough and still allow me to use the classic or antique plate. looking for options here before i decide which direction to take and what replacement parts to start getting.
     
  2. May 22, 2010
    dauntless_powered

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    in CT it all depends on year, not what you have done with it. I have Early American plates on the Jeep, but I could not put them in the 67 chev due to the fact that if you do you can no longer use the bed for anything.
     
  3. May 22, 2010
    dauntless_powered

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    straight off Pa's dmv site: reading this I would say you are good to go with the mods you want

    ANTIQUE AND CLASSIC VEHICLES
    PURPOSE
    This fact sheet outlines the policy for issuance of antique and classic registration plates.
    DEFINITION OF ANTIQUE AND CLASSIC MOTOR VEHICLES
    Antique Motor Vehicle - A motor vehicle, but not a reproduction thereof, manufactured more than 25 years prior to the
    current year which has been maintained in or restored to a condition which is substantially in conformance with
    manufacturer specifications.
    Classic Motor Vehicle - A motor vehicle, but not a reproduction thereof, manufactured at least 15 years prior to the current
    year which has been maintained in or restored to a condition which is substantially in conformity with manufacturer
    specifications and appearance. Any classic motor vehicle registered under Section 1340 (relating to antique, classic and
    collectible plates) on the effective date of the amendment to this definition which fails to qualify as a classic motor vehicle
    pursuant to these provisions may retain such classic registration unless another type of registration is applied for and
    issued for the vehicle.
    USE OF ANTIQUE AND CLASSIC REGISTRATION PLATES
    The use of antique and classic plates is governed by Section 1340 of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code which states: “It is
    unlawful for any person to operate a motorcycle or vehicle with antique and classic registration plates for general daily
    transportation. Permitted use shall be limited to participation in club activities, exhibits, tours, parades, occasional
    transportation and similar uses.” Occasional transportation and similar uses is defined as one day a week.
    Although buses and trucks are eligible for Antique and Classic plates, buses MAY NOT be used to transport passengers and
    trucks MAY NOT haul cargo.
    Antique and Classic plates are not available for motorized pedalcycles.
     
  4. May 22, 2010
    garage gnome

    garage gnome ECJ5 welder

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    I got pulled over for having a vintage '53 plate on the front of mine a couple weeks ago. mehh
     
  5. May 22, 2010
    wally

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    it will vary state to state. you should confirm with your state's DMV.
     
  6. May 23, 2010
    wheelie

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    Antique plates in Pa require that you send in pics, and not digital pics, of all 4 sides of the vehicle. They will never see brake mods in those pics. No state inspection anymore either. Not sure how the Classic tags work but I'm pretty sure you still need to have them inspected yearly. I will add this, they do expect the vehicle to appear original and in either excellent original condition or restored to new condition and unmodified for an antique tag. They refused one for me for Tuxedo because it was " too rusty."
     
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  7. May 23, 2010
    Tarby

    Tarby New Member

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    I had classic PA plates on my 1984 J-10. Sent in pics, got my plates, no more having to re-register every year. I drove it around more than once a week, state troopers here didn't even know what the rules for running classic plates were. I will say, if you run antique plates, you can still do inspection for your own piece of mind/safety. My dad still gets his antique plated cadillac inspected to ensure safety on the road...ball joints, brakes, etc. Also, if you use antique plates, you can only drive "from dawn to dusk". The DOT doesn't want Antique plated out after dark...ran into this with my 1930 Marquette...tried to sneek back home late from a local show and got nabbed w/ warning.
     
  8. May 24, 2010
    panzer

    panzer Super Mod Staff Member

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    Here in Ohio I had historic plate on my '66. Then had them changed to original '66 plates.
    They are crossed referenced to the historic plates and I have to have the historic plates
    in the vehicle.

    The plates are based on the date of the title. Whatever the mods you make to the
    vehicle make no difference for registration of historic plates.

    Again here in Ohio. Check your state regulations.
     
  9. May 25, 2010
    mdmeltdown

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    Louisiana used to require Antique vehicles to belong to an antique car club for that particular vehicle. Problem is, it was a govenment agency requiring membership in a private club. That didn't last long. They reversed it and said it has to be at least 25 years old and have a picture (like it used to be). The out after dark thing sounds very socialistic...lol. IMO that requirement is very arguable.

    On that same note, my dad got pulled over one time because his windshield was down. The officer said it was a law he had to have his windshield up, but my dad being a retired officer himself said he didn't read the R.S. code. In louisiana, it says you have to have a windshield, but it doesn't say what position it has to be in.

    Like someone said above, I doubt the average officer even knows what the law says. That's one of those dark dusty corners of the law world
     
  10. May 25, 2010
    w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

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    The "out after dark" part applies to vehicles without modern lighting. The black Model T's with the lanterns are darned hard to see at night!

    Classic vehicles are subject to an annual vehicle safety inspection. Antique vehicles operated exclusively between sunrise
    and sunset are exempt from the normal lighting requirements of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code but must have their original
    lighting equipment. Antique vehicles are not subject to the annual vehicle safety inspection. Antique and classic vehicles
    are not subject to emissions inspection.

    Also, I've heard *cough cough* of folks using pictures of a similar vehicle in order to get antique or classic plates on a vehicle while they are restoring it but I've never done such a thing. Of course an overzealous LEO might decide to tag you if you did this and drove the vehicle, but if you live somewhere like I do that requires all vehicles to be registered and inspected even if they are in your driveway, this might be a way around that.Theoretically speaking, of course. ;)
     
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