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renegade 1 spare tire carrier

Discussion in 'Early Jeep Restoration and Research' started by rossbos, Jun 8, 2009.

  1. Jun 8, 2009
    rossbos

    rossbos Member

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    Just purchased a Whitco swing away spare tire carrier. It is something I've been looking for, for quite some time, to complete the restoration of my Renegade 1 project. So here's the question to all you Renegade 1 owners who have the swing away carrier. There is a short hook like piece welded to the top bar about 9" from the hinged side of the carrier. I believe that some kind of chain hooks to it to keep the carrier from swinging to far when it's opened. Does anyone know what the other end of the chain attaches to. How long and what kind it is. That's assuming that thats what the hook is for to begin with.
     
  2. Jun 9, 2009
    oldtime

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    Rossboss,

    Are you saying that the Whitco carrier is an exact replacement for Jeep part # SE-2073-200 Kit , spare carrier, swing out ?
    If so where does one find a Whitco carrier ?
    The parts catalog makes no mention of any other spare carrier details except that it is unique to the Renegade I.
    From my viewpoint this carrier is perhaps the single most important feature identifiing Renegade I vs Renegade II.
     
  3. Jun 9, 2009
    rossbos

    rossbos Member

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    The Renegade 1 has a tailgate and the Renegade 2 does not. I believe that's why the swing away tire carrier, though I don't know why it was chosen over the side tire carrier. The Whitco swing away has been a Jeep authorized add on since the mid 60's and remained a Jeep authorized add on to the mid 70's. The 70 Renegade is the only year that it was standard equipment for a CJ5. They're not the easiest thing to find. it took me almost two years of looking around.
     
  4. Jun 9, 2009
    Zoomer

    Zoomer eJeeper (walking)

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    Straight supports by the tire mount or inverted U? Just curious...

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  5. Jun 10, 2009
    oldtime

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    Rossbos,
    Thanks for getting me up to speed on the Whitco carriers.

    I think that's fairly obvious.
    The original side carriers never had a good reputation due to limited strength and poor location.
    According to the W1195 - R2 parts catalog the wheels used for Renegade I could be W/O part # 930047 which are the 5.5" wide x 15" Kelsey Hayes.
    Yet I suspect most buyers preferred the W/O part # 994733 which are 8" wide x 15" Kelsey Hayes.
    Simply stated the use of wide wheels mandated a new type of spare carrier.
     
  6. Jun 10, 2009
    rossbos

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    The one I purchased has the three straight bars and cam from a 69 cj5. I believe the Renegadr 1 came with the inverted U, but I was happy just to find one so it will do.
     
  7. Jun 11, 2009
    SandhillMike

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    My Ren 1 has straight bars. That pic of the inverted U doesn't look anything like my carrier.
     
  8. Jun 11, 2009
    OverEngineer

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    I will check my 1970 tonight. I'm pretty sure it is a curved U style. Does your Ren1 have the pin striped seats?
     
  9. Jun 11, 2009
    SandhillMike

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    yes it does
     
  10. Jun 11, 2009
    OverEngineer

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    I just checked my Tire Carrier. It does have the right angle rod that holds a chain and the chain bracket for the tailgate does have an extra termination hole to retain the chain when it is not on the tire carrier
     
  11. Jun 12, 2009
    rossbos

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    I'm not finding any kind of an extra hole on the tail gate chain bracket to attatch an additional chain to on my jeep. Would it be possible for you to post a picture of it so I could take a look.
     
  12. Jun 15, 2009
    OverEngineer

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    I'm not allowed to post attachments. If you send me your email address I will take a photograph for you
     
  13. Jun 15, 2009
    Zoomer

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    Just curious, does your spare tire carrier have the 3 verticle posts or does it have the inverted U pictured above?
     
  14. Jun 15, 2009
    OverEngineer

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    I will go look and take a picture
     
  15. Jun 15, 2009
    OverEngineer

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    Ok, Did that. My carrier has the upside down U
     
  16. Jul 14, 2009
    booger

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    I have a swing away spare carrier I took off my 1970 Renegade if you're interested. I live in west central Georgia.
     
  17. Jul 15, 2009
    KJRoss54

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    Phil,

    Do you have any pictures of your swing away spare carrier? Thinking about something like that for my '66 project.

    Thanks,
    Keith
     
  18. Nov 23, 2011
    tiger2

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    ive owned two renegade 1,s both with diferent swing away tire carriers. sold my first one 30 years ago +. i,m looking for a stock whitco . my latest ren.1, has the aftermarket brand which holds two jerry cans. both jeeps were purple. both had diferent transfer cases. also someone added a hard top. nice top but not stock renegade 1. looking for purple stock paint code.. any help?... harky..
     
  19. Dec 8, 2011
    honeywells41

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    I have a bone stock original R1 & would be happy to provide the opportunity for you to get up close to get some pics & measurements so you can fab your own original swing away spare tire carrier. Just PM me to make arrangements.
     
  20. Dec 20, 2011
    tiger2

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    you may have found the last one!. i,ve owned two ren, 1,s both purple both with diferent swing away tire carriers. both with diferent transfer cases, both had rear gas tanks. and tail gates. dauntless v6. i cannot find the corect paint code.. i know the color was changed in 71-72 to a more maroon/burgandy.
     
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