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F head fouling plugs quickly

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by dauntless_powered, Feb 13, 2009.

  1. Feb 18, 2009
    dauntless_powered

    dauntless_powered SUB Chief

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    Alright, just picked up a dwell/tach/volt meter, one range hotter on plugs, and got the fitting for my compression testor. Never used a dwell meter before, so this should be fun. The game plan will be set idle, install new points, set dwell (will be a learning process), and see where we are at. I still dont know how I am going to check timing with no marks, but that is another story. I maybe use the set #1 cyl at tdc and ensure rotor is pointing to #1 post on the cao and see where that gets me. Wish me luck on the way home now to play :)
     
  2. Feb 19, 2009
    dauntless_powered

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    well got home last night and played around a little. First time using a dwell meter so I have some questions. As I understand it for a 4 cyl you need to just double the 8 cyl readings. That being said and hooking the neg lead to the frame, and pos lead to the post on the dist I got the idle down to 800 or so, but she was not running a smooth as she was at a higher rpm. When I switched the meter to dwell I was getting around 39 with it hooked up the same way. So, I still think the timing is off, but not being able to read a mark bothers me a littlem but I will play with the dizzy today. Also I still have a sooty plugs in there. I got a higher heat range plug for it. More to follow tonight
     
  3. Feb 19, 2009
    blevisay

    blevisay Oh Noooooooooooooooo! Staff Member

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    well got home last night and played around a little. First time using a dwell meter so I have some questions. As I understand it for a 4 cyl you need to just double the 8 cyl readings.

    Yes on most dwell meters

    That being said and hooking the neg lead to the frame, and pos lead to the post on the dist I got the idle down to 800 or so, but she was not running a smooth as she was at a higher rpm.

    So Far so Good.....I would like to see 600 or so , it ran smoother cause you have a bad miss.

    When I switched the meter to dwell I was getting around 39 with it hooked up the same way. So, I still think the timing is off, but not being able to read a mark bothers me a littlem but I will play with the dizzy today.

    Close you should be 42-43. Look for timing marks on the left
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    Some even had them on the flywheel. Either way it wont help the miss.

    Also I still have a sooty plugs in there. I got a higher heat range plug for it. More to follow tonight

    You should start with fresh plugs Champion J8C. I dont agree with the higher heat range.

    Put a vac guage on and tune the carb for best vac. The guage will also tell you if the timing is correct. You are sure the plug is firing.........right?

    I'll help you the best I can.!
     
  4. Feb 19, 2009
    dauntless_powered

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    You are the man!!!!! Ok so dwell needs to be adjusted a little higher, rpms still need to come down, and I have anew set of J8's as well so I will try them first. Tomorrow's plan will be : plugs, vac guage check and adjust, idle down, new points and recheck dwell. Also comp check. Will update with more info tomorrow night
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  5. Feb 19, 2009
    blevisay

    blevisay Oh Noooooooooooooooo! Staff Member

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    Make sure to post the Vac Guage results....I can tell lots by them!

    You can all ways bring it here and I'll get it running for you and help you get rid of that rear PTO : )
     
  6. Feb 19, 2009
    blevisay

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    Keep at it.

    Anyone that has seen Animal in person will tell you it runs Silky Smooth.......so I know it can be done. : )
     
  7. Feb 19, 2009
    dauntless_powered

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    Will do, again thanks with this
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  8. Feb 19, 2009
    Brian P

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    Sounds like you almost have it whipped, Eager to hear how it goes.
     
  9. Feb 20, 2009
    dauntless_powered

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    you and me both... gonna spend all weekend in the garage so hopefully we get it right. Once I get the motor happy, the tear down will begin on the body!!
     
  10. Feb 20, 2009
    dauntless_powered

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    Ok. Stupid question, but where do I hook up my vac guage. Fsm claims I need a special adapter tool??
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  11. Feb 20, 2009
    kiowamtp

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    I hook mine under the base of the carb (pax side) where the PCV line should be hooked up to. Just need a brass T fitting.
     
  12. Feb 21, 2009
    dauntless_powered

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    gonna dig around for a fitting that will work today, however I did complete the compression test and the results dont look good :(

    No Oil added:

    #1 - 118
    #2 - 112
    #3 - 105
    #4 - 98

    OIL Added:

    #1 - 118
    #2 - 115
    #3 - 110
    #4 - 100 if that
     
  13. Feb 21, 2009
    willygene

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    best fix for the carb on the f head is replace the stock carter carb with a solex much more reliable and better throttle response than the carter. Also check the gap on your plugs they should be at 30 on a plug gap gage if more or less they will cause fouling and rough idle as well.
     
  14. Feb 21, 2009
    dauntless_powered

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    Plugs are dead on and due to the fact that I am trying to keep this as orig as possible the carb is staying.
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  15. Feb 22, 2009
    willygene

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    i use autolite 295 plugs they seem to last longer and spark a little hotter than the j8s i like to keep my 55 original as well but the carters just dont last they will get air leakage were the throttle linkage goes thru the throttle body of the carb its self and no matter what you do it wont run right, they can be fixed but if you wont to keep the carter id look for an nos and put gaskets and diaphram in and run it till wore out good luck hope you get it running right.
     
  16. Feb 23, 2009
    gasman

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    I changed my float level and went one heat range hotter on plugs that helped 100% .Then with the Alternator up-grade totally different machine smooth and responsive.
     
  17. Jun 10, 2010
    lilredyj

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    Whats the plug part number that would be hotter than stock? I have a 68 thats fouln plugs. Have tried the J8s and auto 295....
     
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