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warn OD popping out of gear

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by bkd, Oct 14, 2008.

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  1. Jan 8, 2009
    Homebrew2

    Homebrew2 Member

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    Does the TC have any symptoms of probs too?
     
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  2. Jan 8, 2009
    bkd jr.

    bkd jr. Back From Beyond

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    I don't mind showing off. But i wouldn't want to hurt youR)
     
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  3. Jan 8, 2009
    bkd

    bkd Moderator Supreme Staff Member 2022 Sponsor

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    other than oil leaks and the dreaded whine....no. I figure it won't hurt to check the intermidiate shaft et al while I have things torn down.
    Jim S.
     
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  4. Jan 9, 2009
    fheadcj6

    fheadcj6 Member

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    jim,
    it is defiantly faulty, you need to take it off and post it to me ASAP. :)
     
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  5. Jan 9, 2009
    1960willyscj5

    1960willyscj5 Well-Known Member

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    Correct me if I am wrong (I frequently am), but can't you remove the OD unit without having to remove the tranny and t/c?
     
    1960willyscj5, Jan 9, 2009
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  6. Jan 9, 2009
    jzeber

    jzeber Well-Known Member 2022 Sponsor

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    Yes you can, it is not terribly hard to do. Biggest pain is getting the special keeper lined up when putting it back together.
     
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  7. Jan 9, 2009
    bkd

    bkd Moderator Supreme Staff Member 2022 Sponsor

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    yep you can....but I'm doing a drivetrain swap sp figured it'd be easier on the bench :beer:
    Jim .
     
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  8. Jan 9, 2009
    Homebrew2

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    Yeh, if the whine is much more than just noticable, going thru it is good at this time. As NickMil has mentioned before, it may be the shaft/brgs or something else. When I did my orig 1.125" shaft case, it did not help at all. I swapped that case out for a 1.25" case and did that shaft too ... though the whine wasn't bad, it's barely noticable now and it fixed the nasty growl that occurs between accel and decel :beer:
     
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  9. Jan 11, 2009
    marc

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    any resoultion to the od popping out problem. i have a similar problem but my od pops out in direct drive. mounts are all good. it pops out when i am throtling up. i would LOVE to get this problem figured out so please share info as you come upon it.

    by the way, i am new here, who is herm?
     
    marc, Jan 11, 2009
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  10. Jan 11, 2009
    bkd

    bkd Moderator Supreme Staff Member 2022 Sponsor

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    first off welcome aboard :beer:
    Herm is the guru for all things OD, here's his info...
    http://www.hermtheoverdriveguy.com/
    I found my tranny mount seperated and a motor mount broken yesterday :(.......Herm suggested looking at the shift dogs so I'm gonna pull the OD today.....I'll report later
    Jim S.
     
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  11. Jan 12, 2009
    bkd

    bkd Moderator Supreme Staff Member 2022 Sponsor

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    Ok I got the OD off and did an inspection of the shift ring/ shift dogs etc....all seems in order, but I damaged one of the springs for the syncro dogs upon reassembley so I'll order from Herm tomorrow. I may yet send the whole mess off to him as it seems a little "grittey" inside the case :rofl:.
    I mentioned in my build thread that my tranny mount, and one motor mount were damaged badly, probably what caused the problem to begin with.
    More after I talk to Herm tomorrow....Jim S.
     
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  12. Jan 13, 2009
    bkd

    bkd Moderator Supreme Staff Member 2022 Sponsor

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    I posted in my build thread pics of the OD dis assembled....everything seems in great shape except the shift dogs/springs. I'm convinced that this whole problem ultimately boiled down to bad tranny/motor mounts as many of you alluded to earlier. Thanks for all your help guys :beer:
    Jim S.
     
    bkd, Jan 13, 2009
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  13. Jan 15, 2009
    marc

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    thanks for the welcome and the follow up on your problem. i am will be trying to figure out why mine pops out soon. great resource here.
     
    marc, Jan 15, 2009
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  14. Jan 15, 2009
    James of the Mountains

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    Bungee cord to the firewall come unhooked?
     
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  15. Aug 13, 2009
    bkd

    bkd Moderator Supreme Staff Member 2022 Sponsor

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    finally got the Jeep running right and decided to try the OD.....still wouldnt shift into OD. Took it off tonight and found this
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    whats left of the retainer clip and a chewed up "special washer"
    proceeded to disassemble the OD and found the brass gear closest to the bearing distorted to the point that the shift ring wouldn't slide over it (thus no OD)....also the big bearing was missing 3 ball bearings :rofl::(....guess I'll need to drop the TC pan and fish them out
    As bad as all this seems I'm relieved to know what the problem is, and after a call to Herm tomorrow I'll get the parts to fix this mess
    Jim S.
     
    bkd, Aug 13, 2009
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  16. Aug 13, 2009
    uncamonkey

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    They are fairly bullet proof units but it boils down to a couple of simple pieces,

    that fail.

    How's that Lincoln doin'?
     
    uncamonkey, Aug 13, 2009
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