Brake Fittings Dictionary

Hi Folks -

I'm almost ready to start installing my Wilwood Masters and hanging pedal setup. I've seen a few related threads, but my question is more about brakes in general. I need to buy some tubing and a few fittings. I thought I would ask if anyone knows where to buy this stuff and what to call it. I'm having a hard time finding this stuff on the web. I'll try to attach a doodle of my setup. I need the parts I've circled.
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I was able to buy a whole roll of the stuff, which for my CJ, MB, & GPW's didn't last very long. But, my main reason for posting is to remind you to use brake tubing (galvanized steel tubing) of the proper size (dia.). I've seen too many jeeps with copper tubing for brake lines to assume that everybody knows how dangerous that can be. When I saw that drawing with compression fittings my first fear (after the fact that you even considered using them) was that you might consider using copper too. I've never seen copper coated steel lines, but I've heard that years ago it was available as brake line. Safety first, do it right! It's not only your safety here, but that of your passengers & other people on the road or trail.

 

Thanks guys. You saved me. I didn't even realize there was a difference between compression fittings and flare connections. I've bought some of the stuff I need including pre-flared brake lines. Now at the existing lines where I will have to flare them myself, I will need the male nuts that go inward of the flare. These nuts already come on the brakelines I bought, but I don't know what to call them or where to find them. I have 3/16 lines.

Where can I get those nuts?

Also I will need a connector which connects a female 1/8 npt to a male tubing nut (like I just described). Any ideas where I can get that suff?

Finally, what's the difference between flared and double flared tubing?

Thanks

 

Double flared has been flared twice, single flared has been flared once. The double flare has twice the the metal in it, hence is stronger. When I redid the brakes on my 66, i used stainless lines, and dot 5 brake fluid. ( the jeep does sit alot )

 

If you have a NAPA in your area you can purchase all of the adaptors and lines your going to need. If you get a double flaring setup they also sell line in a 25' box so you can get the length you need and not have to connect pieces together. Here in MI it is against the law to sell compression fittings for brake work.
Brian

 

Correct me if I'm wrong.
IIRC if you are running drum rear and disc front, then generally you will have 3/16" coming out of the master cylinder, then into a splitter, and splitting off to two seperate 3/16" lines for the front calipers. Then on the rear drums you have a 1/4" line from the master cylinder, to the rear flex hose, that connects to a "T" and splits those off to a 3/16" line to each wheel cylinder.

 

I bought all of my brake hardware from Speedway Motors. This includes the braided brake lines with AN-3 fittings (stands for Army Navy), mounting plates, AN-3 to hard brake line adapters, and the banjo fittings.

I ran AN-3 braided lines from the left-front engine mount to the front axle tube to a T-fitting, hard line across the top of the front axle to the inner knuckles, braided lines from the inner knuckles to the calipers.

I ran into the same problem regarding not knowing what fittings to use until I figured out what the circle track and race cars are using. You can buy a good double flare tool and everything else needed to finish the job from Summit, Jegs, Speedway, or some other race shop.

I can post pics of my Wilwood setup and brake line routing if you want, but it looks like you've got enough information here to get your started.

Good luck,
Jeff

 

Okay -

I'm hoping to have all the parts and tools in the right place at the right time this weekend.

Jeff - any Wilwood pedal pictures would be great. I orginially bought the swingmount pedal but after trying to fit it on my firewall somewhere where it would be able to swing it's full motion without bottoming out and without being so close to me I would have to put my knee on the steering wheel to step on the brake, I sent it back and got the shorter floormount design which I will still try to mount as a hanging pedal.

Thanks,
GW