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just got my first jeep, m38

Discussion in 'Flat Fender Tech' started by F150Boss86, May 28, 2008.

  1. May 31, 2008
    Mike C

    Mike C Member

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    The full-floater Dana 23 would be 4.88 gears. The original Dana 44 with two piece axles in the M38 would have had 5.38.

    His jeep has the axe/shovel indentions on the passenger side, which is correct for an M38 and it has the tailgate as well. Only the MB in the flatties had no tailgate, and the M38A1 along with the early '70's Renegades.
     
  2. May 31, 2008
    spoolnaround

    spoolnaround New Member

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    pics of what I thought was supposed to be an M-38
     
  3. May 31, 2008
    1963cj5

    1963cj5 Member

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    spoolaround ::

    appears that you have the body of M38a1
     
  4. May 31, 2008
    Bill F

    Bill F Finally running

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    looks like a modfied cj body to me on spoolarounds jeep, maybe mb/gpw
     
  5. May 31, 2008
    Mike C

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    Looks like a modified 3A body. Has a 3A/M38 windshield, but tailgate is welded up. Has what appears to be the small civilian fuel tank and does not have indents for shovel/axe. Does not have cut-out for snorkel on hood, either.
     
  6. Jun 1, 2008
    F150Boss86

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    [​IMG]what do you guys think Id need to do to get this look out of my m38? i really like the stance with the tires, any lift? different rims?
     
  7. Jun 1, 2008
    spoolnaround

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    Which look? The one in the ECJ ad? nothing, run it like it is. I am very jealous, that tub appears to be in awsome condition. My 3A is swiss cheese :(. I need to get it home and get to work on it.
     
  8. Jun 1, 2008
    Bill F

    Bill F Finally running

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    something to do would be to get the correct gas tank in with the fill on the side of the body. Also make sure you have a m38 frame. Do you have the data plate behind teh passenger seat on the wheel well? That will give you the serial number.
     
  9. Jun 1, 2008
    F150Boss86

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    I was thinking about fixing the gas tank setup.... I do not have a serial number, and i know he said the frame is two different ones bolted together...and most of the mechanics are from an anphib jeep. the pic i posted i guess changes. It was the pic with a front shot of a flatfender and two more jeeps following it and it was in black and white
     
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  10. Jun 1, 2008
    Bill F

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    If the motor is from a GPA that is worth some $$$. I just picked up a parts jeep the has the correct tank and the part of the body where the filler goes is also solid and could be cut out. Take some more detailed pics of your jeep, the frame and under side of it. Also look in front of the crossmember under the grill, the frame if it is m38 at all should be boxed to the frame horns.
     
  11. Jun 1, 2008
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    :? The transfer and tranny each have their own drain plug and fill plug...


    Nice looking M38!
     
  12. Jun 1, 2008
    F150Boss86

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    found the plugs, ends up my tranny plug is on the passenger side also, so I dont have a t90? Ill take more shots tomorrow of the motor and tranny and frame. I dont have the money to pull the body and do a complete restoration, so I think for now I may give the paint a quick sand and roll a new coat of red. wont look that great up close but it will do until I have the money to do everything correctly...
     
  13. Jun 2, 2008
    Bill F

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    You may have a T-84 if the running gear came out of an amphib jeep
     
  14. Jun 2, 2008
    kernel

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    i would think if it's a t-84 the floor would be hacked. t-84 is a inch shorter than a t-90 and everything looks centered in the floor.

    it also looks like the frt crossmember is a hat channel rather then round? frt half of the frame may be a GPW?

    the head looks to be later than earlier by the ribs between the studs.

    http://ww2jeeps.com/htm/heads.htm

    .02

    it sure is purdy.
     
  15. Jun 2, 2008
    Grandpa Jeep

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    I thought M38s had the indentations on the Driver's side as well? I know it should have a fuel filler on the driver's side. Could have been removed along with the tank though.
     
  16. Jun 2, 2008
    Mike C

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    Nope. Indentions on driver's side with MB and GPW, passenger side with M38. What does the tub look like inside? What about the seat frame? Is the fuel access hole cut or is it stamped with re-inforced edges?
     
  17. Jun 2, 2008
    F150Boss86

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    Thanks a lot guys for the help with identifying what I have, I will be going though and posting more pics tomorrow of the tub, tanks, underbody and drivetrain. For now heres a quick question. If I have the full-floater Dana 23 with 4.88 gears, what ring and pinion would I need and where could I get it? Im almost certain thats where the leak is at.
     
  18. Jun 4, 2008
    Mike C

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    What makes you think the R&P needs to be replaced? Before messing with it, you need to determine if the front is 4.88 or not. The Dana axles should have tags below the bolt heads identifying the number of teeth on the ring and pinion respectively. If not, you may have to pull the diff covers and you will find the same information stamped on the edge of the ring gear. Google should show you what to look for.
     
  19. Jun 4, 2008
    F150Boss86

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    sorry, I meant to say pinion seal, it dumps a quart of fluid in just an hour, getting replaced tomorrow
     
  20. Jun 10, 2008
    97XJ_95YJ

    97XJ_95YJ I hate torx bolts

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    Wow. Nice looking Jeep.
     
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