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Closed knuckle bearings?

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by jutgin, May 13, 2008.

  1. May 13, 2008
    jutgin

    jutgin New Member

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    I need bearings for my 69 CJ5 closed knuckle. I'm checking the sites listed on the thread about parts but not much luck. Any help?
     
  2. May 13, 2008
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Have you called any of them?
     
  3. May 13, 2008
    Txjake

    Txjake I wrenched with Sparky

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    Advanced Auto Parts is your friend....
     
  4. May 13, 2008
    nhjeep

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    If you are looking for the top and bottom king pin bearings it should be Timkin 11590 for the bearing and bearing cup is Timkin 11520. I just did mine and found it both at 4wd.com search for SET11A or at the local auto part store. Just call around you should be able to pull the numbers off the back of the bearing and cup and give the parts store the numbers.
    mike
     
  5. May 13, 2008
    kaiser krawler

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    jeepdoc.com should have everything you need. you may want to get a shim kit for the extra 4 bucks, in case you need to reset the preload. you will also need a fish weight scale to do the job right. i use a cheap one from wally world.
     
  6. May 14, 2008
    jutgin

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    Wow it was 150 total just for parts!
     
  7. May 14, 2008
    Fat Va. Boy

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    Just Empty Every Pocket again.:) Small price to pay for a safe vehicle though.
     
  8. May 14, 2008
    66cj5

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    did you buy all 4 bearings or just the ones you needed?

    if one side is bad the other is just as bad if not worse and you already have all the tools out anyway.
     
  9. May 14, 2008
    jutgin

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    Well the other side was tight as I could hope for, no play at all. The driver side flops like a chicken. So I bought the 2 bearings, cups, cap, shim kit, and seal kit. I wanted to tackle the install but don't know if I could do it. I'm not familiar with these old jeeps. I found someone to do it for 150 bucks so I thought that sounded like a fair price. I would love to do it though just to learn about them. I was a little thrown about the fish scale. I've never heard of that before. Sounds like to get to it you only have to take off the wheel and hub, is that right?
     
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  10. May 14, 2008
    sparky

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    Hate to tell you, but I gotta agree with Karl here, if one side is bad, the other is too. If you replace one side and the other is bad it won't get you very far.

    You bought 2 bearings? There should be 4. Two kingpin and then inner and outer wheel bearings.

    Buy a FSM and visit the tech section for information on rebuilding. It's not hard at all. This is one of the easiest things to do on an old Jeep. And usually one of the first that I recommend since they're usually shot.

    Oh, and you'll have to pull the tie-rod as well to set the preload.
     
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    mortten

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    And according to the FSM you need to set it without the nuckle seals in place.
     
  12. May 14, 2008
    jutgin

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    What is the FSM? and where can I look at it?
     
  13. May 14, 2008
    sparky

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    Factory Service Manual, http://www.thejeep.com/ has them for sale.
     
  14. May 15, 2008
    66cj5

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    not hard. you will need the funny socket for the wheel bearings (run about $11 at flaps). other than that unless you want to bleed the brakes, use a coat hanger to tie the brake backing plates (with the shoes and hardware still on) to the frame. just mindful that old rubber hose doesn't bend as good as new stuff.

    And it's a good time to check you brake shoes and drums for wear.
     
  15. May 21, 2008
    jutgin

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    I wish I had a step by step to do this. But I'm gonna tackle it toimorrow, or it might tackle me. I dont know what a preload is, I dont know how to get the drum or locking hub off. I dont kow what flaps is or what the funny socket is. So maybe if nothing else I can get greasy and kick the jeep.
     
  16. May 21, 2008
    sparky

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    Get a FSM! That's why I suggested it. It is exactly that. A step-by-step how to.
     
  17. May 21, 2008
    zed

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    fsm has good step by step.

    the fish scale is to set the preload.

    I agree with replacing both sides at the same time (4 bearings). the second side goes much faster than the first since you will have done it once.

    Seems to me I also saw a how to on this site or another one. I'll see if I can track it down.

    But as was said before... get a factory service manual that includes your year you won't regret it.
     
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