Renegade 1 Or 2

My R1 has the pads but I don't know of they're original.
BTW, Sparky's writeup says something about courtesy lights on the wheel wells. I have some that do not look at all original, including the wiring. They're the same type seen on tractor trailer rigs with an aluminum housing. Anyone have a pic of the light(s) mentioned in the writeup.

 

That would be me. Here's a link to pics of the RI.

http://www.printroom.com/ViewAlbum....E&userid=bluesman2a&album_id=113646&curpage=1

There were alot of items added at the dealerships. The lights, diamond tuck seats, and Audiovox 8 track were added to my Jeep at the dealer. Hope this helps. And thanks for posting the exhaust pics. I've got to get mine redone on the RI and now I see how to do it on the RII. I'm not sure if I want run them below the cross member. I'm kinda tired of the Jeep sitting in the garage and I might start taking it on mild trail rides. The exaust below the cross memeber kinda defeats the putpose of skid plates.
Robert

 

The pics are a bit deceiving. None of the exhaust is below the skid plate. In fact, the crossover is tucked neatly in the space behind the bent up part of the plate. The routing is rather well designed IMO.

Robert - I didn't notice the rear well mounted light before in your collection of pics. The lights on mine are different and mounted on the forward part of the well. I'd post some pics but they wouldn't serve any purpose here. Definitely not factory.

 

Here is a side pic of mine that if you zoom in, I think you can see the stock route for the exhaust. This pic was about 2 months after I bought it and had not yet put my headers on it.
Dial up beware. I posted a large pic so people can zoom in.


http://www.hdts.vcn.com/OLD JEEP PICS/SIDE VIEW.jpg

 

Thanks Mike! Pic shows exactly what I was talking about except for the crossover. The transmission/transfer case skid plate is below the exhaust.

 

What I meant to say is the crossover isn't seen in the pic not that it doesn't match.

 

The only Orange Renegade I's I've come across on the site are Renegade 1 (I would like to see a pic), mnemonic76 (he has a good web site of restoration project http://home.comcast.net/~tryelton) and mine. All our vin's are within a couple hundred.
mnemonic76 has a plate under his paint and trim plate. I would like to know what is on that. I was looking at my jeep I used to have one, its gone now.
If Renegade 1 can't get you a good picture I can. I've added a few things to it diamond plate, fender flares, jerry can holders, bigger tires other then that its stock

 

"Nothing suprises me when it comes to things Jeep did. From all the research I've done, Jeep produced 500 70 Renegade I's, 250 Lime Green and 250 Purple. "
Robert
70 CJ5 RI Lime Green
71 CJ5 RII Baja Yellow


I will ask this for a third time. What sources do you cite as the basis for the number of 500 Renegade I's? I appreciate the information!!!

 

When I was researching for repainting my RII I came up with some tit-bits on this subject. I will let everybody else make there own conclusions, but here they are.
According to one book I have, Wild Plum was a option color on RRI in 1970 but its implied that there were other colors, but no other colors are listed.
In 1971, 600 Renegades IIs were made, 200 Baja Yellow, 200 mint green, 50 Riverside orange, and 150 Big bad oranges according to my book.
In reseaching I kept in mind one main thing, and that is that AMC took over JEEP in Feb. of 1970. Even through the 1970 models were already in production, I kind of got the jest that AMC was the driving force for the RI and it would be interesting to see when the first build date is for a RI. Any how, in the 1970 jeep color chart, wild plum in not listed.
http://www.hdts.vcn.com/paint codes/1969-73 PAINT.jpg
In the 1970 AMC chart, big bad orange is listed
http://www.hdts.vcn.com/paint codes/1970-americanmotors-pg01.jpg
how ever in the 1971 AMC color chart, wild plum is:
http://www.hdts.vcn.com/paint codes/1971-americanmotors-pg01.jpg
This makes me think that wild plum was a AMC color.
Other then this info, I did not find much more data on the RI.
For the RII, I did not find any of the RII supposely colors in the 69-73 Jeep codes:
http://www.hdts.vcn.com/paint codes/1971 PAINT.jpg
However I did find big bad orange in the AMC 1970 codes:
http://www.hdts.vcn.com/paint codes/1970-americanmotors-pg01.jpg
Wild plum is also in this code.
In the 1972 AMC code I found Riverwide orange, baja yellow, mint green, sierra blue and plum. A interesting thing in this code that I found was if you look at the bottom there is a note that says the numbers with asterick were all used on 1971 AMC jeep Renegade. Also there code is all "999" I thought this was quite noteworthy.
http://www.hdts.vcn.com/paint codes/1972-jeep-pg01.jpg
Having noted all this info, I can say that I can only remember seeing a plum RI and a riverside orange, big bad orange, baja yellow and a mint green RII.
I never saw any other color RI, or a plum or sierra blue RII, but for sure I am not saying that there werent any other colors.

 

Mike,
I spent a couple of hours, Friday, at the local PPG dealer looking for paint for my Baja Yellow RII. The 1972 color chart is all we came up with. He even had books going all the way back into the 50's that just list names and codes but we could not find anything Jeep for 70 0r 71. I believe that the 72 chart 999 #'s are correct for the Renegade I's and II's. I'm going to do the RII with base coat clear coat so it will hold up better. My green RI was ordered in Feb 1970 and delivered in March. It's still a Kaiser Jeep but got a small AMC badge added to the tail gate at the dealership.
Robert

 

I have a ren II and just went to my shop to look at the decals, in looking at the post above mine I believe your sticker may actually say Ren II. The the two ones are very close together and if you were to remove a small strip of decal vertically it would look like a wide "1". also my understanding from the original owner was that ALL the RenII had no tailgate. I can post a pic of my decal if you tell me how.....Im kinda computarded

 

I wondered about that also..... Would it be worthwhile to measure the width of the "I" on the Jeeps in question?

 

On Mnemonic 76s site I notice a couple of things. One I agree the the "I" looks really wide like was said above and maybe it was a "II" with part missing. Two, he has a pic of the Vehicle Emission Control decal, and it's just like mine, is from "Jeep Corp" (AMC) and is for 1971. This made me think he has a 71 RII, but then in another pic he shows a tail gate!! :smash:

 

Did the Renegade II's come with wheel flares? I know you are all familiar with the picture of the 3 R II's with a girl sitting on one of them. (It is a featured pic on this site!) In that pic they do not have wheel flares. I noticed on Wyoming Mike's pic of his R II that it does have wheel flares. What are the thoughts?? Great thread btw!!!!

 

Sparky
What was important to me was not that it was badged AMC, which it should have been, but that the tag said 1971. On his dash sticker the built date is Sept of 70 which I think would have been about the time of year for the yearly model switch over. To me that would have meant that it was officialy a "71" which in turn would have meant that it was a RII, but then the dacal says RI, and it has a tail gate. To add to this, the tail gate looks like a newer style (Jeep vs JEEP)
Clear as MUD? :?

75CJ5 Renegade
No mine did not come with the wheel flares. I got them from JCW back before they were popular and any of the manufactors offered them. You just bought a long roll of it and cut them to fit. By the way, I still prefer them to the new ones as they were rubber and can bend very easy, not like the newer plastic one.