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Tire siping?

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Project71-5, Sep 12, 2006.

  1. Sep 12, 2006
    Project71-5

    Project71-5 BACON

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    I'm having my knockoff BFG mud terrains siped on Friday and was wondering if its best to have the entire tire siped, just the outside/inside lugs, or both of the inner tread blocks? I'm doing this for better traction on ice/snow.
     
  2. Sep 12, 2006
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I'd do the whole thing Joe.......
     
  3. Sep 12, 2006
    Executioner

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    Err what is siping???:oops:
     
  4. Sep 12, 2006
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    I had the tires on the VW siped. I bought my BFGs the same place and requested it for them too.

    They couldn't do it. No more siping machine. They moved it to Hayes. :mad: There's no one else local that does it.
     
  5. Sep 12, 2006
    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

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    siping - basically slicing the tread (the width of a razor blade) to give it a softer grab on ice and snow.
     
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    Executioner

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    Ahh I get it! This one set of newer snow tires I had looked like regular tires except it was loaded with these thin lines..They worked great! I was surprised on the better traction over the traditional "snow tire" tread.
    Thank you!
     
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    Project71-5

    Project71-5 BACON

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    I am having this done to a used set of tires. I told the guy I would clean out all of the rocks, including those in the stud holes. He said each blade on the machine costs $15 so if any get messed up because of rocks I foot the bill.
     
  8. Sep 13, 2006
    lynn

    lynn Time machine / Early CJ5 HR Rep Staff Member

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    Joe...we need pics of the finished work!! :)
    Hope you don't have to buy any blades...
     
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    MCSCOTT

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    Rondog

    Rondog just hangin' out

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    I need to check this out. I can't believe it can be done for 8-10 bucks per tire, I just can't visualize how it's done. Seems like it would be very time-consuming.
     
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    sparky

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    Didn't take but five more minutes during the whole installation process on her VW I don't recon.
     
  12. Sep 13, 2006
    Brad Rabideau

    Brad Rabideau more Jeeps than sense...

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    I've had it done on my wifes van. It works very well. We have it done on our squads at work. As for extending tire life, my experience is that it shortens over all life considerably.
     
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    mb82

    mb82 I feel great!

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    I would think with spirited driveing it would. Siping would make the tread blocks less stiff thus allowing side to side movement and then creating heat. Leading to tire wear.
     
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    sparky

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    Sposed to have the opposite effect from everything I've read. Should make the tire run cooler and extend the life.

    Dunno. Only had her tires on the VW for two summers now.
     
  15. Sep 13, 2006
    BlueFlu

    BlueFlu past owner of some ecj5's

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    When I ran Pro Comp MTs they were siped and lasted almost 45,000 miles, still had some tread left when I cut a sidewall.
    Siping sure was nice in the rain. My new ones are not siped and I do notice.
     
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    MCSCOTT

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    It doesn't take as long to do them as most people would think. It is nowhere near as time consuming as grooving the tires, and a good tire man can do them quick.
     
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    AKCJ

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    This has been my experience with the TSL's I'm running now. The chuncking doesn't bother me. I think the siping gives me more traction (on ice and rocks) and you can never have too much traction.
     
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    Geeper

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    Must be a good thing. I hear more and more about it. I know Les Slob tire stores are pushing it. The wintercat tires I got for my wifes 99 Gran Wag are studded and siped. I have summer and winter tires for our rides. I drilled and studded a set of BFG muds for my CJ's winter tires mounted on rims so I can swap them according to the season. Ice, lockers and studs.....fun !
     
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    AKCJ

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    Tumbleweed, you've been hanging out in Fairbanks? Stop by and say hi if you get back this way.

    Yes, siping is pretty common here. Last time it was $10 per tire.
     
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    mb82

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    Hey I am just going off of the info I remember from racing. Thats why we used to shave our tires, so the treadblocks would not move around as much thus giving us more traction for longer before we overheated the tires. Notice I said Spirited driving? AKA driving like you stole it.
     
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