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Set Of 'must Get' Mill And Lathe Items

Discussion in 'The Tool Shed' started by Warloch, Mar 5, 2021.

  1. Mar 22, 2021
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    I have one, they do work nice :)

    I also picked up a dividing head kit from India for it cheap on Amazon, not recommended. :(
     
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  2. Mar 23, 2021
    Madeline3b

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    Grizzly industrial is usually not bad for inexpensive offshore stuff, I have also had decent luck with Shars. As far as cutters and such KBC tools is also ok. Again, buyer beware!
     
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  3. Apr 17, 2021
    teletech

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    This reminds me to mention old CNC equipment. I picked up a CNC mill for about $600 a while ago, cost me another $1500 and some hair-loss to get it running but it really is amazing what you can get for almost nothing in the old NC market.
    As a result I have a small manual mill I get to enjoy for the tasks it's good at and the other stuff (shapes, angles, etc.) goes on the CNC.
     
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  4. Jun 13, 2021
    norms love machine

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    I'm a machinist for 40 years + looks like you got a lot to learn , so enjoy the ride , I run a VTL that was made 1912 so old machine don't die ,lots of good suggestions here but you tooling needs will never end , get a numbers and letters stamp set and stamp on the things that you make (made in the USA)
     
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  5. Aug 6, 2021
    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

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    Finally an update on my mill I ordered in February.. it shipped from PA this week and is due sometime in the next week or so. Was in Indiana as of today.

    Specs on what I ordered:
    PM-727M-w/3axDRO PM-727M Milling Machine, 7x27" Table, with:
    1. Chip Tray
    2. R8 Spindle Taper
    3. 110V Single Phase Power
    4. 3 Year Warranty
    5. 3 axis DRO Installed
    Stand Sold Separately

    STAND-STEEL-PM-727M/V Stand for PM-727M and PM-727V Milling Machines

    R8-11Pc-ULTRA Ultra Precision, Heavy Duty R-8 Collet Set, 1/8"-3/4", 11Pc, Made in Taiwan

    52PCCK-1/2-12mm 52 pc Clamping Kit, for 7/16", 12mm & 1/2" T Slots (Fits PM-25MV, PM-727M, etc)

    KDCR8-13 High Precision Keyless Drill Chuck, with R8 Taper, 1/2" Capacity, +/- .001" Runout (.0019TIR)

    BOR-SET-2-HSS 2" Precision Boring Head, R-8 Shank, with .0005" Graduations, Includes 5 Pc. HSS Boring Tool Set

    VISE-4in-HIGHPREC 4" High Precision Vise, Anglock Type, 4" Jaw Width, 4-1/4" Opening, High Precision, .0006" Tolerance

    ENDMLST5Pc2FL Precision HSS End Mill Set, 1/8", 3/16", 1/4", 3/8", 1/2" Sizes, 2 Flute, Center Cutting 2F

    ENDMLST5Pc4FL Precision HSS End Mill Set, 1/8", 3/16", 1/4", 3/8", 1/2" Sizes, 4 Flute, Center Cutting 4F

    Most of the options were based on what was available at the time of order.
     
  6. Aug 7, 2021
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    Great news, I have something I started making a month ago for you, I will get it finished and sent in the next couple of weeks!!
     
  7. Aug 7, 2021
    Warloch

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    Thanks - I appreciate any help I can get.
     
  8. Aug 12, 2021
    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

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    So - it has arrived :D


    It will be tough to say if this is going to get setup before my surgery. I hope to unpack it at least prior to not being able to do things.
     
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  9. Aug 15, 2021
    termin8ed

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    Definatly unpack to make sure. Nothing is damaged.
     
  10. Aug 15, 2021
    Warloch

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    Broke it open to check it out. Things look to be in good shape. The Truck driver (Saia Freight) who delivered it wanted to know more about the company. He says 3/4 of the Grizzly items he delivers, he picks up as they are so damaged in shipping due to not being packed right.

    They did a good job packing things, the only issue is the wood crate has been soaked and muddy. Smelled of mold when I took the wrap off. We pulled the wood crate, the mill was in plastic and just fine, but you could see it was wet and raining when it was crated - foot prints in mud on the inside of the panels.

    I'll try to get some pics later in the week when I can - got good and bad days with the back...

    Its sad that I can't wait to get cut open and get this fixed. Its really putting a dent in my play time.
     
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  11. Aug 22, 2021
    Warloch

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    Well - I got the mill unboxed and set on its stand in a "temporary" spot. Not sure it will stay there long term, but its where the Drill Press was and next to the bench is probably the best option.


    Now I just need to do some refreshing on how to use these things. I've not touched a Mill or Lathe in over 35 years.

    Still plan to get a Lathe - when getting them don't take 6 to 9 months...
     
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  12. Aug 22, 2021
    Mcruff

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    Chuck if you are right handed, cock the mill about 30° from the wall with the left side of the table pointed toward the wall, better yet a corner. This way your chips are directed in the direction of the wall, much easier to clean up your mess. Your chips will go all over but better directed toward a wall or corner to help control it.
     
  13. Aug 23, 2021
    Warloch

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    Thanks, I'll do that. My Granddad had a piece of tin he had built and angled over there on his home made setup with a little tub under it. Never dawned on me why.
    I'm debating about it there, or in the other corner... but that requires moving the bolt bins - and more planning than I'm capable of at the moment :confused:
     
  14. Jan 31, 2022
    Warloch

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    Now that life is starting to get back to 'normal' post surgery - I decided to finish the purchase plan and order the lathe:
    Product Total
    PM-1022V / PM-1030V × 1 $4,081.92
    PM-1022V/PM-1030V - PM-1030V-w/QCTP-w/2axDRO × 1
    PM-1022V/1030V-STAND W/STORAGE - PM-1030V STAND × 1
    0-1/2 ULTRA PRECISION KEYLESS DRILL CHUCK MT2 × 1
    1/2 TURNING / 5/8 BORING TOOL SET × 1
    MT-2 HEAVY DUTY LIVE CENTER × 1
    HEADSTOCK / GEARBOX OIL, ISO 68, QUART × 2
    WAY OIL, #2 (ISO 68) QUART × 2

    Optional items, tax, shipping and delivery came to @ $4500. Got the larger one than I ordered last year as they are both due in "Late Spring 2022".

    I enjoy the fabrication part of things too much to keep missing big parts of it. Should be the last major toy purchase for the shop before retirement. I just tell the wife its cheaper than some hobbies, and she will know where I am - I think she is still trying to figure out if that's a positive :D
     
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  15. Jan 31, 2022
    47v6

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    You got it with the DRO?

    Looks like thats going to enable you to hit the ground running. I would buy a collet chuck and a set of 5C collets too. The price for all that is a great deal.

    I have often thought about DRO for my lathe, but I rebuilt the cross slide and the number are really good now.

    DRO on my mill, now I will never use a manual one again. The kit I got with glass scales and LCD monitor was under 300 bucks for 3 axis.
     
  16. Jan 31, 2022
    Howard Eisenhauer

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  17. Jan 31, 2022
    Warloch

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    Yup - the 1030V with DRO was only $100 more than the 1022V. I got the DRO on the Mill I'm going to try to setup in the next couple weeks and figured I'd just do the same with the lathe.

    I'll have to look for the collets - they didn't have them on the site. But I'll need to let the 'budget' rebuild a bit too :)
     
  18. Jan 31, 2022
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Something to consider-

     
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    47v6

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    I have a cheap Ebay collet chuck. I machined the backplate because they dont have ready made L00 tapers and bolted it all together. Its got some semi crunchy action, but it was under 200 bucks. For the price I couldn't be happier. For what I do, .001 or less runout is just fine on my 60 year old lathe. My measuring instruments and ability to take good readings inst even that good..

    Oh, BTW, that cheap ebay Chinese collet chuck has made me thousands of dollars.. So... I think its just fine, crunchy action included.

    The cheap interstate of other Chinese 5c collects are every bit as good as the old hardinge or lyndex ones I have for what I do and are a lot less money and come in economy sets.
     
  20. Mar 3, 2022
    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

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    And an Update - Lathe has hit the Precision Matthews Floor - they are going to get it ready and then ship to the house. Eta is end of month as I aske them to push it to after the 22nd of March.

    Now I just have to find a place to fit it... I thought I would have another month or two :D
     
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