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Bigdaddy's Socal 1964 Tuxedo Park Resto-mod.

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by Bigdaddy13, Dec 9, 2019.

  1. Mar 16, 2021
    timgr

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    Regarding the hatch over the fuel sender, I suspect it's not legal by modern safety standards. Aside from the design issues with the under-seat tank, the factory was compelled to move the under-seat tank to the back because the NHTSA rules prohibited fuel tanks in the passenger cabin at some point ca 1970. Wagoneers (and GWs) after 1980ish came from the factory with a hatch in the floor that is directly above the fuel sender. However, this hatch is riveted with some kind of gasket from the factory, which I'd guess gets around the prohibition. Of course, you can drill out the rivets and get to the sender.

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  2. Mar 16, 2021
    Bigdaddy13

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    I guess I’m hearing what you’re saying but not sure I understand why it’d be an issue?

    they sell rear cargo area hatches specifically for more modern vehicles like LJ/TJ’s?

    Also, it’s not like my rear cargo area is solid, there are many factory/bubba’d holes? (I can’t imagine the hatch makes a difference as far as vapors go with a vehicle without doors.)

    like to hear more, tho.
     
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  3. Mar 16, 2021
    ITLKSEZ

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    What would be the reasoning? All my European cars have a fuel pump/sender access panel that is held in place with screws.
     
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  4. Mar 16, 2021
    Bigdaddy13

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    The final install has a gasket, btw.
     
  5. Mar 16, 2021
    73 cj5

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    I worked on a GM car that had a fuel tank access hole under the rear seat from the factory. A few cars even had the battery mounted under the rear seats.
     
  6. Mar 16, 2021
    timgr

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    I suspect it's not legal to have a door, though it's ok to have a panel that's "permanent."

    It's nothing to me ... and the Jeep is old enough that any regs would not apply. The original tank is wide open to the passenger compartment. Just thought it was interesting.
     
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  7. Mar 16, 2021
    Bigdaddy13

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    I’d really have to piss off a cop to get cited for this, lol, but sounds like if it rivet i’d be good-to-go, then?

    definitely gives me a reason to get a pop rivet gun. :)
     
  8. Mar 16, 2021
    tripilio

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    Where did you get it? I want to do the same thing! Looks amazing!
     
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  9. Mar 30, 2021
    Bigdaddy13

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    Thanks! Summit, i think.
     
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  10. Mar 30, 2021
    Bigdaddy13

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    Just a thought on the color palette:
    . Is there a quality gloss olive drab? Or maybe a semi-gloss that i can clear coat?

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  11. Apr 12, 2021
    Bigdaddy13

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    well, the gloss olive drab didn't pass the sniff test, so I actually ended up with a new color from rustoleum called "gloss slate grey", I think. It's pretty awesome. Depending on the light it's medium grey, dark grey, and a very cool "steel blue" color.

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  12. Apr 13, 2021
    truckee4x4

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    That is a Good looking Jeep!
     
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  13. May 14, 2021
    Bigdaddy13

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    Well, thanks all for the troubleshooting help in my electrical thread.

    Through sheer luck (or a few light hammer taps on the right components) the run-on situation has resolved itself (knock on wood). I have a spare starter solenoid sitting in my shop just in case that ends up being the issue, though. I hate not having a clear reason for the issue, but whaddaya-gonna-do....:)

    In any case, I'm also fairly certain i'm going with a painless wiring harness. The two i see that I like are:
    • 10102 - hot rod/street rod universal .
    • 10105 - Early CJ specific.
    I've read through both manuals and seeing how 10102 is the cheaper of the two, it's the one I'm gravitating towards since this jeep is VERY not original and probably won't ever be, so I don't mind having non-terminated wires and some of the things the kit includes that I know i wouldn't need/use.

    I'd just have to add a few things (relay kit, Midi fuse kit) to get what I want. More than the EZ, less than the CJ-specific Painless 10105, but still with the great step-by-step instructions to follow.

    Pics from yesterday's test run to see if all systems were back up and running.

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  14. May 14, 2021
    Warloch

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    OK - I have to ask about the cat toy in the driver seat... and if its really an "Air Freshener" that's what the open windows and doors are for on a jeep. Besides, its supposed to smell like gas and 90WT :p
     
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  15. May 15, 2021
    Bigdaddy13

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    haha! I have 3 daughters. They can’t NOT bedazzle my jeep with stickers, stuffed animals and handmade “pom-poms”. I’m sure you’d find a “spare” hairbrush, scrunchie, and numerous hair ties if we panned the camera around a bit. :D:beer:
     
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  16. May 15, 2021
    Warloch

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    For your consideration - I really like the EZ-Wire setups. I've done 4 rigs with them and will be using one on the '63 build as well.
     
  17. May 15, 2021
    Bigdaddy13

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    I’ve definitely considered it. Instructions are non-existent with those kits, right?
     
  18. May 15, 2021
    Warloch

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    No - mine have always come with a full instruction book.
     
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  19. May 15, 2021
    Bigdaddy13

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  20. May 16, 2021
    Warloch

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    Universal setups 12 and 21 circuit like you have found. I get mine off Ebay from oldnewparts - I also get my gauge sets from him.
     
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