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Flanged Dana 44 Help

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by oddfirejeeper, Jul 18, 2019.

  1. Jul 21, 2019
    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

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    If I understand it correctly the retainer ring is the only thing that actually holds the axle in? Certainly wouldn't hurt to check things out.
     
  2. Jul 21, 2019
    oddfirejeeper

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    sorry not retainers but bearings. don't know why i said retainers
     
  3. Jul 28, 2019
    oddfirejeeper

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    here is a short video of the in and out (side to side?). what are some thoughts? The retainer plate does not look too badly dished but am still thinking of getting a new bearing, seal and retainer plate for this side. The passenger side does not move like that at all.
     
  4. Jul 28, 2019
    oddfirejeeper

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    the seal behind the plate does not move at all it is only the shaft.
     
  5. Jul 28, 2019
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    The bearing is pressed onto the shaft correct?

    If so, it seems to me that the pressed fit is compromised either by a bad bearing or a worn shaft in the area where the bearing seats.
     
  6. Jul 28, 2019
    Glenn

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    There is no way that is acceptable. o_O
     
  7. Jul 28, 2019
    Glenn

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    If I understand the setup correctly the retainer is what holds everything in.
     
  8. Jul 28, 2019
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    The retainer holds everything in the housing but I believe the bearing is a press fit onto the axle shaft. Not positive but I think so. Been a while.

    Assembly process would be to slip the retainer over the shaft, press the bearing onto the shaft, slide axle/bearing/retainer assembly into housing and bolt the retainer to the housing.
     
  9. Jul 28, 2019
    oddfirejeeper

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    wheelie, yes the bearing and a retainer ring gets pressed onto the axle after the retainer plate and seal
     
  10. Jul 28, 2019
    oddfirejeeper

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    this is a flanged axle and with that said are there aftermarket shafts available? I think i've heard something about dutchman axles?
     
  11. Jul 28, 2019
    oddfirejeeper

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    that is what I was thinking too glenn
     
  12. Jul 28, 2019
    Glenn

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    I agree the bearing wouldn't be just a slip fit.
     
  13. Jul 28, 2019
    Glenn

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    I assume you're going to find out what the problem is first? :)
     
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    If the retainer is not loose then the only 2 possibilities I see are the bearing or the shaft. I'm not sure that, once it's all bolted in place, there would be enough room in the tube to allow a failed bearing to move THAT much. Unless the inner mating surface where the bearing contacts the shaft has worn. Or the shaft itself has worn in the same area. Poor quality bearings are not uncommon these days.

    Pull it apart and see what's up.
     
  15. Jul 28, 2019
    '74Renegade

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    This is my first thought.

    Maybe the wrong bearing and race was used and it didn't seat all the way.
     
  16. Jul 28, 2019
    Glenn

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    I was thinking along that line as a possibility myself.
     
  17. Jul 28, 2019
    oddfirejeeper

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    got the same bearings on both axles
     
  18. Jul 28, 2019
    oddfirejeeper

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    are there any specs for reference to see if the shaft is compromised?
     
  19. Jul 28, 2019
    Glenn

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    The instructions list the minimum diameter of the shaft where the retaining ring goes.
     
  20. Jul 29, 2019
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    Either the presses collar is loose or the bearing is junk just cause it has low miles it has been a few years. The grease may have dried up and ruined the bearing. I’d guess collar not pressed enough or bearing in wrong.
     
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