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Kid Back Seat Question

Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by johneyboy03, Dec 19, 2018.

  1. Dec 19, 2018
    johneyboy03

    johneyboy03 The green beast

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    Hi guy's i've been in a big dilemna right now abotu my futur riding my cj5. I own the jeep for 10 years know and i never had problem with storage since i was riding alone or with my girlfriend.

    Now situation has change and i now a proud father of two kid (girl 2 years old and a little 6 month old boy). So from there will be a big change in need for the jeep. I still love the 5's but as for securty and storage it will came to a point i will need something bigger. I have a 2-3 years before project will be done but i need to make a decision right know.

    For now i have two option. First one is to go with a CJ6. I got a big plan in my head for it.

    I just bought a jeep tj unlimited that has the same wheel base as a 72-75 cj6.

    I want to put an aqualu body and i just receive an answer from them that they are able to prefit the body over ther LJ frame as they already done’s it for another customer.

    I’m looking to put a 5,3 chevy engine with his 4l60e transmision to a dana 300 transfert case.

    As for axle i want to use my custom dana 44 using for the front inner scout axles shaft and outer ford axles shaft with 30 splines. Axle are from rcv performance right know. I have a rear dana 44 from the scout.

    Ultimatly i would like to built a front still passenger side drop but with a hi pignon carrier for better angle and tuffness.

    I will weld on jeep tj’s axle braket and i will be able to buy a "bolt-on" suspension kit for the jeep.

    Dont know yet if i go with 33" or 35" inch tire.


    Second option, is to sale the 5's and get a 2012 4 door jeep Jk. This is not the same pleasure as a CJ's bring but the option of having 4 door is a good thing over the round shaped door of the cj5.

    I would like to get input of other because right know i just don't know what to do....
     
  2. Dec 19, 2018
    ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

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    Man, that's a tough call.

    If those are the only options, I'd say option A is definitely more fun and interesting, but I'd hate to see you pillage your 5 for parts.
     
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    rejeep

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    make your 5 a 6.. plenty of room for a rear seat with 5 point harnesses...

    check out my build... its really the reason i did it.. wanted something i can take the kids in without car seats..
     
  4. Dec 19, 2018
    johneyboy03

    johneyboy03 The green beast

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    yeah, i would need the tittle of the 5 in first place and since i have 4k valu in part on my axle i will be a good save for the 6's.


    Yes...i may have read you're built maybe 5 or 10 times right know. You made yourself a really nice ride. You've been the biggest motivation for doing a 6's right know.

    I really want something easy to drive (55-60 mph) that i can take every sunny day to go work or other and i want my girlfriend to be able to drive it. A cj5 is not the best handling " car " i ever drive but you can get use too. That's why i consider the Lf frame since it will bring a more modern quality ride.
     
  5. Dec 19, 2018
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Johnny, you've done amazing things with your modifications to your 5. :)

    The question is- with the kids riding along will you be wheeling in conditions that will require those sorts of capabilities? What other vehicle do you have for a daily driver?

    There's also another question- how much of the "jeep experience" for you is about the ride, and how much is about the build?

    Having kids changes things, how it will affect your jeeping is a question you need to give hard consideration to before you start into a new path.
     
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    johneyboy03

    johneyboy03 The green beast

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    Forget to tell i need to use seat booster for kid until they get 9 year's old or when they get at a precise height....
     
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    jeeper50

    jeeper50 jeeps 'till I die

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    A coworker of mine bought a scrambler and added a second row of seats in the back. he wheels with all 4 of his kids and spouse, caged the rear and away they go
     
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    rejeep

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    unsure how strict they are in canada.. but I had my 5 points looked over by a NYS trooper who assured me it was safer then any car seat..
     
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    tarry99

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    Lots of options............Is the TJ running that you just bought?............If so..... drive it and leave your old CJ for the hardcore wheeling.............

    Car seats for children and hard core wheeling just don't match up very well...........I've looked at many car seats that range up to a $1000 per seat but still leave doubt for complete safety when it comes to head and neck injuries ....................Kids little bodies and muscles just take along time to develop enough to hold that Noggin / head without fear of injury in a jeep that can have some fairly violent movement even on a fairly basic trail.........sure you can go to a Full Face helmet and a Hans device and that will eliminate most of that issue for kids ........but at what cost?

    Obviously driving style has to change while the kids are on board.............easier to say than do!
     
  10. Dec 19, 2018
    johneyboy03

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    You bring good point here. As for the wheeling i don't plan to do as much as extreme trail as i use to do. But i want to have a good on and off-road jeep and that why a cj6 ok jk 4 door get in the plan.

    As for other vehicule i got a 2015 toyota sienna awd there is a big gap between the two. The jeep will be mostly recreationnal.

    As for the jeep experience, i have the jeep thing in my blood since i am 3 years old (been given a battery jeep powered and i know i would have a jeep ever since.

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  11. Dec 19, 2018
    johneyboy03

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    Sorry...forgot to say i got only the frame from the tj unlimited....

    As stated in the other message, i don't want to do extreme wheeling...i care more about the children in the back seat than the feeling i got from hard wheeling.
     
  12. Dec 19, 2018
    johneyboy03

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    Here in Quebec....they are by the book for a lot of thing. I know i can pass inpection with the plan stated above but for kid i don't think i will be able to save myself from the cops if i ever have to deal with them. And for having looked over the mastercraft seat you put that it will be more safer than booster seat but law is law here ....
     
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    rejeep

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    "Children must remain in an appropriate child restraint system until the age of eight (8). An appropriate child restraint system is one that meets the child’s size and weight and the specifications of the manufacturer of such system. A child restraint system may be a child safety seat, harness, vest or a booster seat"

    my kids are in a harness...
    I'm not looking for the opportunity, but I would love to argue this..

    bottom line is too, my wife approves.. so that's my hardest official to satisfy...
     
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    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Here's my thought- a vehicle optimized for the kind of off roading you're doing now is not optimized for the kind of driving you'll be contemplating with your kids. Moving the $$$ parts over from your 5 to a 6 will give you more room but it will be way overbuilt for what you'll be using it for and in fact not optimised for your kids riding in it.

    If it was me I'd sell the Sienna & buy a four door JK, you'll have a good daily driver and a very capable machine for family trail rides. Keep the 5 for those days you feel like pushing the limits of your abilities. :D
     
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    johneyboy03

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    Haha good call on the sienna thing....but i use it for my business and personnal thing.
     
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    Twin2

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    tough call . sounds to me . kids are the problem . all the changing laws today for car seats
    if it's only going to be a toy . then build it . for the family and kids buy the 4 door jeep
    both of my kid grew up in jeep . granted they were 7 years apart . so I only dealt with the car seat one at a time . with lap belts
    and the back seat . now the funny thing is I always was the taxi driver for my daughter and her friends . all the girls like to ride in jeep
    first timers just couldn't figure out seat belt . cause I would always say girls SEAT BELTS
     
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    sterlclan

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    my oldest has been wheeling since just after her birth, had cowlick bad and the rough ride in the woods helped her remain sorta calm. I used to stuff the seat with rolled up towels to help her floppy melon stay put.
     
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    Jw60

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    I have 3 sons. When I first put this jeep together my wife told me I wasn't allowed to let any of them ride in it. She wouldn't even ride in it. I don't know what her problem was. She would drive my first CJ2a around by herself years ago, or maybe that was the point. That one was all stock except for an Fhead and finally some 11"drums up front that made it less scary.

    Anyway, I live in a city where safety for children in motor vehicles is mandatory in law and "optional" in practice. People drag their kids in carts behind bicycles to school on the streets full of angry insane drivers. Others will fill the back seats of cars up with kids like we all did in the 70's and 80s and before. Others will do al the required safety seats and all that like we did.. except my jeep.

    Boys all want to ride in open top jeeps, Its why every one of us here has one. I could not deny them that, so I seat belted them in and drive around with them in it. The 5 year old in the back is still small but the other 2 are almost as big as me now. We all go out together sometimes with no extra safety equipment other than lap belts in the back and 3 point up front. Can you imagine the stupidity of mounting a full sized child seat in the back of an open top 70 year old jeep? Maybe if I took out the seat and bolted it the floor? Otherwise its a rocket launcher for your kid.

    Your LEO may have nothing better to do than to tell you what to do, but here anything goes pretty much.

    I am not advocating the idea that safety concerns should be ignored or the idea that "Since I didn't die, whatever I did should be just as good for my kids". I will say that I grew up riding on the fenders and then driving open tractors, where if you fell off you were going to die a gruesome death, and many farmers did just that. I also rode in the back of pickup trucks at 55 MPH and ON TOP of loaded potato bodies going down the highway throwing rocks at road signs.

    The stuff we were allowed to do was the pinnacle of stupidity and its the reason why your uncles should never raise children....
     
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