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Ramsey Model 105 PTO

Discussion in 'Winches' started by 1957Willys, Feb 27, 2017.

  1. Feb 27, 2017
    1957Willys

    1957Willys Member

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    Can a regular pto drive shaft with a universal joint in the center run from the bell housing to the pto? Or do I need the special short drive shaft and bell housing with the hanger bearing on the side like the M38A1 use? This is on a early CJ5.
     
  2. Feb 27, 2017
    Howard Eisenhauer

    Howard Eisenhauer Administrator Staff Member

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    Not 100% sure what you're asking but i run a two piece shaft with a ujoint in the middle supported by a hanger bearing I have bolted the the lower left engine-bellhousing bolt.

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    H.
     
  3. Feb 27, 2017
    1957Willys

    1957Willys Member

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    I have found a pro off a M38A1. I should have posted that first. These are pictures of the drive shaft set up.

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  4. Feb 27, 2017
    gunner

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    OK, I could be wrong on all this, but that sure looks like the rare PTO from the M series jeeps (both M38 and the A1). You could easily sell that and fund all sorts of winch fantasies.

    The civvy Koenig and Ramsey PTOs are very easy to find and purchase in comparison to that PTO.
     
  5. Feb 27, 2017
    Howard Eisenhauer

    Howard Eisenhauer Administrator Staff Member

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    Yup that's what it is but I believe the really rare part is the model 50 winch that goes with it- last I heard they're going for upwards of $1000.

    H.
     
  6. Mar 2, 2017
    1957Willys

    1957Willys Member

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    Yeah that's it but I didn't pay no were near $1000 for it. But it does need to rebuilt with new bearings and seals. I just need to find a low profile ujoint that goes beside the PTO.

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  7. May 26, 2017
    1957Willys

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    Really they are going for that much? Is that not rebuilt or rebuilt with new bearings and seal?
     
  8. May 26, 2017
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    The winches by themselves certainly are, the PTO's seem to be more common for some odd reason & therefore not worth so much.

    H.
     
  9. May 26, 2017
    PeteL

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    Try pricing out the capstan type. :shock::shock::shock:
     
  10. Aug 2, 2017
    Bill F

    Bill F Finally running

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    The ramsey 105a is easily worth $1000 not rebuilt. The last one i sold years ago i got $1000 for it.
     
  11. Aug 4, 2017
    1957Willys

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    Well I have the replaced the ball bearings and seals. I also have the bell housing with the stud hanging out of the side for the hanger bearing.
     
  12. Nov 19, 2017
    1957Willys

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  13. Nov 19, 2017
    GeoffreyL

    GeoffreyL Well-Known Member

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    My dad has a crank driven capstan on his 46 2a. been on there since he bought it in the 70's.
     
  14. Nov 19, 2017
    PeteL

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    ??? U-joints are a standard commodity.


    Tractor Supply?
    Tom Wood 4x4?
    Surplus Center?
    Graingers?
    Agricultural catalogs/websites?

    And certainly ebay, I would think.
    universal joint | eBay
     
  15. Nov 23, 2017
    48cj2a

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  16. Nov 23, 2017
    48cj2a

    48cj2a http://bantamt3c.com

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    Wonder if you could use a steering ujoint

    Borgeson Joint

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