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2.5l Pontiac/iron Duke Engine Mated To A T98a

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by jeepstar, Apr 5, 2016.

  1. Apr 5, 2016
    jeepstar

    jeepstar Well-Known Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

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    guys,
    my father in law gave me a 2.5 Pontiac/iron duke motor, and now that I have a motor on hand, I think I would like to swap out my 134 F head. I know that they are both inline 4 motors, but the iron duke has a lot more aftermarket support than my tired Fhead.

    anybody have/has done this combo before?

    what adaptors are needed?
     
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    pat w

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    Does the 2.5 use the standard Chevy bellhousing pattern? I'm thinking it does which means you would need a Chevy bellhousing, a common adapter and install a longer input in your t90 to make things work. Engine mounts should be fairly easy to fabricate
     
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    timgr

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    pat w

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    I missed the t98 part sorry bout that
     
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    ITLKSEZ

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    Don X

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    What ITLKSEZ said. That Fhead-T98A combo will generate a lot of working funds, keep a T98A where it belongs, and give you a combination that is easier to maintain and repair.
     
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    Don X

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    Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the GM trannies shorter than the T98? There's not much room to work with.
     
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    jpflat2a

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    I'm not a fan of the Pontiac puke engine.
     
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    jeepstar

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    Ouch. Pontiac puke! The duke is just a motor siting around that the fatherinlaw wanted to get rid of. T98a isnt going anywhere
     
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    I had a 1980 CJ5 for a daily driver back in the late 80s, it had an iron duke. It was a strong, dependable little engine. AMC even put the " Hurricane" label on it. Only owned it for a couple years though while I was working on the 71. AMC stopped using them in 83.
     
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    Don X

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    Isn't the iron duke what the post office ran in their DJs?
     
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    ITLKSEZ

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    We bought a flatty for $200 years ago just for the OD that had a duke in it. That thing ripped. It almost killed me.
     
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    Rralphs

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    Early Duke had chevy bell housing like v8's. After that they had the metric bell like chevy 2.8 v6 and FWD gm cars.
    If the Duke has a flywheel, maybe. Otherwise you'll spend more trying to find parts then its worth.
     
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    GeoffreyL

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    I have one in my DJ, 1969, gm 153 with a power glide auto, same driveline as a chevy nova of the time, that's how I always look up parts.
     
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    timgr

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    One of many engines that appeared in that chassis. Jeep DJ - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The 153 cid "Chevy II" engine that Geoffrey has is not the Iron Duke. It is a 4-cylinder version of the contemporary and very conventional Chevy 230 cid six (2/3 * 230 = 153), with the intake and exhaust on the same side of the head. The engine that Jeepstar has and Jim remembers so fondly is the GM/Pontiac inline 4, a cross-flow design like the 2.3L Pinto engine.
     
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    oldtime

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    No the iron Duke is a 151 Pontiac.
    The DJ used the far superior GM 153 engine 9same as a Chevy II or Nova0
    It's occassionally called the Stovebolt 153
     
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    Rick Whitson

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    Wow, I always wondered if the Chevy was an Iron Duke, you guys just answered all my questions. I know the Chevy was used in a lot of boats, and in Hydro Plane racing. I had a manifold for a Chevy with four Dillorto?, carbs on it for a Chevy four, as Garage art, sold it to a collector friend for his Man Cave.
     
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    timgr

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    The 153 is not the 151, but NB both engines were used in DJ models, as was the AMC 150, among others. See the Wikipedia link above.
     
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    fine. ill keep the 134 hooked up. what to do with the iron duke? make a go kart?
     
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