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Discussion in 'Early Jeep Restoration and Research' started by nh65cj6, Dec 18, 2015.

  1. Dec 18, 2015
    nh65cj6

    nh65cj6 New Member

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    [​IMG] Hello all!

    Very new to the forum. Just picked up a 1965 cj6 tub on Craigslist and it's pretty clean. The exception being that the front floor pan and transmission tunnel were whacked up 2 owners ago and sat in a barn by the last owner for 20years.

    My issue is this. I will admit, I come from the world of toyotas. Jeeps have always interested me so I do know quite a bit about them. I'm one of those people... Something interests me I pick it up like a sponge. However I just bought this 1965 cj6 tub off of craigslist from a seemingly knowledgeable jeep guy... Not your typical craigslist transaction. Swears to me that it is an original relatively rust free tub. The only thing I have noticed is this. Above the rear wheel well there is no indent in the body line, like on most all cj6's I see. Apparently it was there left over fro. Military jeep soft top bows or something. From time to time I come across something that doesn't have that indented body line but for the most part they do. What I have noticed is that a lot of replacement tubs don't have those body lines. In all honesty I'm not complaining I had already been thinking of ways to get rid of it and when I saw it didn't have it I was elated. However now that I have done some more looking it seems that most do. So what I do know is this. It looks like last time this body was on the road was in the early 80's and possibly by the new hampshire state police. The Kaiser Willy's VIN is riveted on in the correct location and does not appear to have ever been removed. Also everything else about the tub including stake holes etc. are there even the snorkel hood (which I know doesn't mean the tub wasn't changed). Literally every piece of this jeep is in as good of condition as the next.

    So my question is this:

    Are there cj6's made with straight body lines?

    If so what is the deal?

    Google has been very little help for me and this site has been great since I picked up the tub!

    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. Dec 19, 2015
    nh65cj6

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    Twin2

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    can't really comment on tub . but grill shell is 72 and later
     
  4. Dec 19, 2015
    nh65cj6

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    Also my vin is 8422 10058. Doesn't the 8422 signify that it is a tuxedo park cj6?
     
  5. Dec 19, 2015
    timgr

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    This is my 1975 CJ-6, the day I got it. This is a 100% original and complete 1975 CJ-6. You can see, it has the top bow indents. This was the last year of domestic production. For 1976, those indents were gone, but there were CJ-6 sales for export only. Only the CJ-5 and CJ-7 were offered domestically.

    So I see two ways that your tub would have no indents. First, a 1976-on export tub likely has no indents. But it would have the new style frame that widens at the rear wheels, and new-style one-piece floor pans, with no toolbox under the passenger seat. So it could be an export tub, if it has the later floors and frame.

    Second, and more likely, most repair panels for tubs are of the 1976-on style, and if used, would eliminate the indents. So the indents could be lost if this type of panel were used. I don't know of any vendor that offers full side panels for CJ-6s, but you could imagine that a tub that needed rear quarters could be repaired with CJ-5 quarters. Notice that the factory CJ-6 side panel is fabricated by slicing the CJ-5 panel in half and inserting a panel in the middle. So you can get 2/3 of a CJ-6 panel by buying a CJ-5 panel.

    http://www.classicent.com/jeep/cj5-1976-1983
     
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  6. Dec 19, 2015
    timgr

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  7. Dec 19, 2015
    nh65cj6

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    My thought was similar. That it was either a repair or an aftermarket tub. But there are literally zero signs of repair with the exception of the floor. And the front floor is mostly missing so I can't say what the floor pans are like. I do know that when the guy before me got it it was on the narrow track frame and axles with the original 4 cyl engine. He separated all of the components and sold them off over the years storing the tub in his garage. It doesn't really upset me as it is in good condition and I am not one to obsess about it being original. However, I do want to know if this is an original tub or not.
     
  8. Dec 19, 2015
    Dave B

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    I've just copied and pasted another post's notes below (with your S/N):

    84= CJ-6
    22= Tux Park
    10058= S/N
     
  9. Dec 19, 2015
    nh65cj6

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    Just ran out and really looked at it and I think it was just repaired. Really well but it looks like it was repaired. There is the smallest line of a cut on both sides it is unbelievably hard to see. I can't wait to sandblast it and see what this thing looks like.

    Thanks for your help timgr.

    Anyone know where to get a tux park hood badge. Even though this thing is far from original or clean it would be cool to put the hood badges back on since there were only 459 made!
     
  10. Dec 23, 2015
    y2k-fxst

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    The windshield looks correct for a 1965, and it appears to have the fuel filler for the tank under the driver's seat which would also be correct. The tail lights are definitely off a newer model as they would have just been the round trailer looking type. Don't be too anxious to sand blast it, thought my CJ6's body was in good shape till I took it down to bare metal. Now I'm replacing the majority of it!
     
  11. Dec 23, 2015
    RORO

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    1976 CJ5 had the indent the 1977 did not, just to be clear.
     
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