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T-90 bent shifter?

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Deaner70, Dec 13, 2015.

  1. Dec 13, 2015
    Deaner70

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    bought a rolling chassis but the seller had no idea what year it is. I think its a 70-71 but not sure. It has a 4 banger, and what I would assume a T-90 BUT the top of the shift lever has a small "bend or Kink" in it like the t-86 usually has (at least all I have ever been around) the jeep has a single T-case shifter with bracket on the mounting bolt, a flanged, offset 44 rear, etc. Any thoughts? The engine is locked up, but the frame is excellent shape. He had started a project and then lost interest and sold it.

    So, does anyone have a good guess on tranny? I have not went looking for casting numbers yet

    Any guess on the year with the things I have described? The rear end makes me think 70-71. My old racer had a flanged, offset 44 and it was a 70

    Thanks, Larry
     
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    WorkInProgress

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    timgr

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    AFAIK the F134 got the T-90 up to the end of domestic production in 1971. The only alternative is the T-98 four-speed.
     
  4. Dec 15, 2015
    Deaner70

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    Well I went to looking and removing grime and found the casting numbers T90A-1. Still never remember seeing a handle like this on one. Maybe bent like that to clear a bench seat? Not sure
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    timgr

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    PO mod is possible. Bending a shift stalk can be done easily with a torch.

    Looks very ergonomical to me! :)

    You are correct about the rear axle. Changed in mid 1970. If you got the chassis cheap, that axle makes it a bargain. Only downside with the flanged 44 is Jeep stopped offering the PowerLock, so it's a TracLock if a LSD.

    Plenty of useful parts there.
     
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    1967 CJ5A

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    That looks just like the T90C in my '67.
     
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    colojeepguy

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    I seem to recall the T86 had a different bend, closer to the top.
     
  9. Dec 15, 2015
    FinoCJ

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    Based on the flanged 44 and what looks like a drawbar set-up for a rear gas tank (also some tank bracket mount holes on top of rear frame right in front of rear cross-member), would also support a late 70 or 71.
     
  10. Dec 15, 2015
    Glenn

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    I would assume the serial number would be stamped on the frame as the others are.
     
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    Twin2

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    I think you may find water in transmission . being its been out side in weather . maybe why engine is locked too. a frame with all that I see there . would be worth bring home if the price was right . and you could use some of parts . and sell the rest
     
  12. Dec 15, 2015
    colojeepguy

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    Yep...also the lack of the diagonal frame braces where the rear tank mounts.
    I agree with the post about water in the trans, but the real axle and rear drawbar are very desirable even if the trans us a bucket of rust.
     
  13. Dec 15, 2015
    jglad

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    I had a 1971 with a 134 and a T90 that had that same shifter
     
  14. Dec 16, 2015
    1960willyscj5

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    Another indicator of later year Early CJ is the single lever TC. They only did that in the '70 and '71, didn't they?
     
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    1960willyscj5

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    Diagonal frame member being missing could be because there was a trencher or welldigger mounted in the back. How heavy duty are the rear springs?
     
  16. Dec 16, 2015
    colojeepguy

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    All V6 CJ's had the single lever tcase, but I'm not sure about the 4 banger.
    The diagonal frame braces were deleted with the start of the rear gas tank.
     
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