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Winch Cable Experts Needed

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Howard Eisenhauer, May 29, 2015.

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  1. May 30, 2015
    uncamonkey

    uncamonkey Member

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    I think winches and wire rope are rated in test ranges rather than actual failure. I've read a few sites and the actual failure point is over 2 1/2 times the rated limit. I suspect my Koenig will pull well above it's rating judging from what it did to the rear of my Jeep.
     
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  2. May 31, 2015
    Willys Motors

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    FWIW the 8000 pound PTO Koenig for CJ3A used 150 feet of 5/16 with 6x19 with a hemp core.
     
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  3. May 31, 2015
    PeteL

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    Yeah, wanted to say, I think the core type is key to flexibilty and longevity. The hemp will retain lubricant. But a steel rope core supports the outer bundles better under severe use, and reduces stretch.

    6-26 will be more flexible than 7-19 but the smaller strands are more susceptible to wear and tear.
     
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  4. May 31, 2015
    Project71-5

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    Yep. If you do go this route, be sure to get a lang lay cable for maximum abrasion resistance.

    I work with a lot of wire ropes and rigging in my industry. Last year, we finally purchased two 1.5" x 50' Amsteel Blue loop eye slings with a WLL of 21 tons. Even though they do not have the abrasion resistance of wire rope, the ease of handling more than makes up for the bit of extra care they require. We wrap them with snowmaking hose (fire hose) for protection when needed.

    This was last week. The length of the rig required us to use both the Amsteel and our regular 1.5"x60' steel pendants. You can guess which I preferred!
    [​IMG]
     
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  5. May 31, 2015
    Glenn

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  6. Jun 1, 2015
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    i decided to play it safe- I've ordered the 3/8" 7x19.

    H.
     
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  7. Jun 1, 2015
    PeteL

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    :iagree:
     
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  8. Jun 1, 2015
    Glenn

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    I'm right there with you! :):hurrican:
     
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  9. Jun 15, 2015
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Well, they called for 140' for 3 wraps but I ordered 150'- got it wound on yesterday with about 3-4' leftover on the 4th wrap.


    Shiny hellokitty


    [​IMG]


    [​IMG]

    Thanks for all your input folks, Much Appreciated :)

    H.
     
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  10. Jun 15, 2015
    Glenn

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    Looks good! :):hurrican::coffee:
     
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  11. Jun 16, 2015
    jwmckenzie

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    That looks nice. Where did you get the fairlead?
     
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  12. Jun 16, 2015
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Came up on Ebay.

    Still available new someplace if you look hard enough but $$$.

    EDIT- this one has been modified a bit from stock- at some point it got busted & welded back together with Bubba Boogers- I cleaned it up a bit & added some reinforcements.

    H.
     
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  13. Jun 16, 2015
    duffer

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    Looks very nice Howard. Now, go mess it up!
     
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  14. Jun 16, 2015
    nickmil

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    Nice Howard! I like your engagement handle strap. Is that bicycle inner tube? Excellent idea!
     
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  15. Jun 16, 2015
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Yup, scrounged an old tube off a guy at work. Pretty sure I scammed the idea off somebody here.

    Unfortunately it doesn't work :(

    The winch won't disengage by letting go of the handle, not enough pull I guess. :rofl: I'll try tightening it up at some future date.

    H.
     
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  16. Jun 16, 2015
    Greenshirt82

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    I need one. Mine didn't disengage during a clean n grease and the fair lead got bent before I could run around and kill the engine.

    Yours looks a peach!

    Tim
     
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  17. Jun 16, 2015
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Looks better than it is, but it works.

    I found the link for the new ones- you better be sitting down :shock:

    http://www.towpartsnow.com/store/ramsey-roller-fairlead-for-x600-and-800-model-winches.html


    Summit *may* have them for "substantially" less-

    http://www.summitracing.com/search/...nt-part-type/roller-fairlead/winch-model/x600

    or possibly-

    http://www.summitracing.com/parts/rwc-251154


    Good luck,

    H.
     
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  18. Jun 17, 2015
    Greenshirt82

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    Wow! Looks like a trip to the salvage yard for me.

    Tim
     
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  19. Jun 17, 2015
    dubc56

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    dubc56, Jun 17, 2015
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