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F134 Front Pulley

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Bob-The-CJ, Jul 17, 2014.

  1. Jul 17, 2014
    Bob-The-CJ

    Bob-The-CJ Member

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    So I am just wanting to know which direction the front pulley nuts is suppose to spin to come off? Is it a normal thread nut or left hand thread? Someone told me it is one of the reversed nuts. I have been trying to for two weeks to get mine off and still no luck. I have tried air impact, cheater bars, heat, break free, penetrating oil you name it - and have tried both directions. The nut will not budge.

    So I have decided the first thing I need to know is which direction should I be turning to get it loose. I think going back to basics on this one is required
     
  2. Jul 17, 2014
    Pack Rat

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    Left loose, right tight.
     
  3. Jul 17, 2014
    Bob-The-CJ

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    Well that is what I figured but I will be darned if any amount of force on earth can get it to loosen. I might need to take it to a machine shop
     
  4. Jul 17, 2014
    GeoffreyL

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    Is it still in the vehicle? i got mine off my seized engine pretty easy, so for an unseized engine, put it in gear, block it up, put the biggest bar you have on it, then slide a 6ft. pipe over the handle, it will come right off. or, you can use a 3/4 air impact, 3/4 guns (at least the one i have) have more power than the jeep! another thing to try, put the jeep in neutral, have the bar tight against the frame, and roll the jeep at about 8 or so mph and drop the clutch, that will cause the force to break the nut loose. let me know how it turns out, one of those is bound to get it off.
     
  5. Jul 17, 2014
    GeoffreyL

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    The rolling/poping clutch is the strongest method, if that doesn't work, nothing will.
     
  6. Jul 18, 2014
    Bob-The-CJ

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    The engine is out but that is not a problem. So far I have hit it for over 45 minutes with a 3/4 air impact and I have tried a 7 foot cheater bar. I put my full weight on it and my 250lb uncle even tried his full weight. It did not even budge I am telling you it is like it is welded on.

    The rolling force might have worked, sadly the clutch is the reason I had to take the engine out,

    I tried it again today with the air impact for 20 minutes after soaking in penetrating oil all night and still the same thing, not even a tiny give. Keep in mind though the person who had it before me had a real problem with air impact as in they are the type that should never be allowed near one. They had the drain plug on so tight it took 20 minutes with an air impact just to get it off - well over 200lbs of pressure. No telling what this nut has been put on with, I am suspect air impact plus some kind of thread lock>

    This nut is nuts ;)
     
  7. Jul 18, 2014
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Have you tried heating it with a torch?

    H.
     
  8. Jul 18, 2014
    GeoffreyL

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    Damn, that's pretty good on there then. I was actually able to strip my nut with my 3/4 impact, I was trying to unseize the engine but gave up and replaced it with a mother after that.
     
  9. Jul 18, 2014
    PeteL

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    "...replaced it with a mother after that"


    Paging Dr. Freud.
     
  10. Jul 18, 2014
    GeoffreyL

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    Hahaha *Another............... Dang iphone, gotta love technology and touchscreens mixed with fingers that are torn up from jeeps.
     
  11. Jul 19, 2014
    Bob-The-CJ

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    Yep several times. I have really never seen anything like it, it is almost like it is welded on but surely no one would do something like that.
     
  12. Jul 19, 2014
    PeteL

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    You could cut across the nut carefully with a disc in a Dremel tool or die grinder to remove it.

    The damage to the crank or pulley would be minimal, and then you can put on a new nut.
     
  13. Jul 19, 2014
    FlapJack

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    My 2 cents is load it up and take it to a tire shop that busts down 18 wheeler tires. I bet one of their 2 handed air hogging thunder guns get it loose.
     
  14. Jul 20, 2014
    jacoby0419

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    If I've got a nut that an impact won't touch I put a 1.5" steel pipe that's about 12' long and an 8 pound short handled sledge. Slide the pipe over your ratchet or breaker bar then wail on the make shift breaker bar at the end. Leverage should do the rest.

    If the nut isn't very deep I'll have have someone hold the setup at the nut to keep it from moving around too much.

    I've yet to have that fail on me. It can be difficult to do that if there isn't much space though.h
     
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