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Brake Light Switch

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by 05rider, Jul 14, 2014.

  1. Jul 14, 2014
    05rider

    05rider New Member

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    I can't keep my hydraulic brake light switch working. I think the wiring is good because they light if I jump the terminals and the turn signals work fine. I am thinking of putting a mechanical switch on the brake pedal. Has anyone had any luck with this. 1961 CJ5.
     
  2. Jul 14, 2014
    colojeepguy

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    What problem are you having with the switch?
     
  3. Jul 14, 2014
    Alan28

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    I have the same problem. The switch on the hydraulic circuit is a little bit slow but it works. So I made a contact switch directly on the pedal. It is not yet connected but it works, when I'll press the pedal a part will act on a switch working in parallel with the hydraulic switch.

    I could probably change the hydraulic switch but I don't like working with the dot4. SO I soon that I press the brake pedal, lights will work.
    2 securities better than 1 concerning the brake lights.
     
  4. Jul 14, 2014
    Twin2

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    inline brake light switches require pressure to operate . I believe single master cylinders only have one pressure switch mounted on front of master cylinder . is brake pedal firm(hard) if so . then maybe the little hole on switch is plugged up with rust or trash ( rubber compound) . I would buy another switch and give it a try . sounds like you have power before and after switch
     
  5. Jul 14, 2014
    PeteL

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    So why go mechanical? Swap out the hydraulic switch...
     
  6. Jul 15, 2014
    ggreenwood37

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    My shift tower didn't have provisions for the hydraulic switch, so when i updated my master cylinder - i ended up using one from an early Ford pickup. I can dig up the part number and url for where I got it, if you'd like.. It was kind of a pain to mount correctly. If I had to do it all over again, i'd drill and tap my shift tower.
     
  7. Jul 18, 2014
    05rider

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    Thanks for the replies. It is / was a brand new hydraulic switch. I did put in a mechanical switch from gearhead world and it works fine. Brake lights come on every time.
     
  8. Jul 18, 2014
    Walt Couch

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    Glad you got it working. I think ggreenwood37 has it confused with back-up switch. Hydraulic brake switch has nothing to do with transmission shifting.
     
  9. Jul 18, 2014
    PeteL

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    "It is / was a brand new hydraulic switch"

    New is always suspect in my book. Return the part for an exchange.
     
  10. Jul 18, 2014
    timgr

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    Where did you source the part? What is the PN?

    Rock Auto shows a Standard SLS25 for that application. http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=44649&cc=1490155 Standard is a good brand - your independent parts stores will almost always carry Standard, and if they don't have the part should be able to get it from a local warehouse in a day or less.

    Don't get a SLS25T if the store offers that - that's Standard's "economy" line.
     
  11. Jul 18, 2014
    army grunt

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    I had the same problem with my 71. found out it was bad wiring in the pig tail. swapped it out with a new one it works fine.It was on the rack at Oreillys..
     
  12. Jul 19, 2014
    Chevallier87

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    Grunt, do you remember the pigtail part number?
     
  13. Jul 19, 2014
    army grunt

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    No , but its very common. I am sure any counter "person" could help you match it up to your sw.
     
  14. Jul 19, 2014
    05rider

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    It does not make any sense to me to try another hydraulic switch. It worked for a while, then stopped. All the time I could jump it and the lights worked. Now with the mechanical switch the brakes work every time and it does not take that much pedal movement or pressure to activate the lights. And yes I have a very firm brake pedal (and it holds firm) as the master cylinder, wheel cylinders, and shoes are all new. But thanks for the replies.
     
  15. Jul 19, 2014
    PeteL

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    "It does not make any sense to me to try another hydraulic switch."

    Your choice. But in my experience the more things you can keep stock, the fewer new complications are introduced. Future problems are easier to diagnose and fix, and parts will be easier to identify and locate.

    A hydraulic switch is about the most basic and reliable part as you can find on a vehicle.
     
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  16. Jul 20, 2014
    nickmil

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    Interesting thread. This weekend at a Jeep off road run several people mentioned converting TO a hydraulic switch because of the mechanical switches sticking on and causing problems. I've very seldom had any issues with my hydraulic switches and they are not affected by dirt build up, the brake pedal bouncing around off road (seen one break because of this), etc. If you periodically flush the hydraulic system to get rid of the moisture they are very dependable (assuming a quality unit is used and not the cheapest-made-overseas unit you can find).
     
  17. Jul 22, 2014
    uncamonkey

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    My hydraulic swith has worked for over 28 years on the 3B I don't see a problem. I did have to change the switch on the commando however. A $3.50 part
     
  18. Jul 22, 2014
    Walt Couch

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    My switch is 48 years and still works every time and no leaks. Just can't get more reliable than that.
     
  19. Jul 22, 2014
    PeteL

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    57 years here and counting.
     
  20. Jul 23, 2014
    uncamonkey

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    Yep, the brake switch on my '53 Buick still works fine. And the funky start system still works too, turn on the ignition switch, step on the gas pedal, statrer engages...Hopefully the motor starts.
     
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