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Holbrooks vs yj swap on a flattie

Discussion in 'Flat Fender Tech' started by Fiddy5cj5, Jan 15, 2014.

  1. Jan 15, 2014
    Fiddy5cj5

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    Ok so I'm bout to do a 3 or 4in lift on my 1950 3a. It currently has stock springs a shackle lift and a 1in body lift. I'm contiplating the holbrooks and a yj conversion. I'm Hoping to run a 33in tire with no rubbing
    I'm curious to here from those who have completed either. How much did it cost after all Said and done. How is the articulation. Are you satisfied. Those of you who did a yj conversion did you use a kit or piece it together thanks for everyone's help

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  2. Jan 15, 2014
    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

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    I run the Holbrooks with a body lift and 33s - no rub unless I am really bound up and then it's inside the wheel wells. Don't think you could get around that with as snug as the rear axles are. Cost was just the kit and I put on Rancho 9000s as they were in my plan. Those are real nice to firm the ride up on the road, and then articulate on the trail.
     
  3. Jan 15, 2014
    Fiddy5cj5

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    Ty warloch
    The holbrook kits are pretty expensive I called them up they list the price as $8xx.00 but after I called them it's more like 1400 without shocks and shipping but Is there anyone else that can comment


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  4. Jan 15, 2014
    scott milliner

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    Rocky Road YJ conversion springs are $1459.00. I still haven't tested the springs off road but the ride is really great. Soaks up those bumps nicely.
     
  5. Jan 15, 2014
    Fiddy5cj5

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    Did you install it on a flattie

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    scott milliner

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    tarry99

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    Holbrook makes a nice product backed by allot of use and experience on various Jeeps........expensive yes! But what isn't that works? ............Fairly easy to install as the kit is complete.
    I also think the YJ conversion is also a viable option.
     
  8. Jan 15, 2014
    Fiddy5cj5

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    I'd imagine it would work the same though

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    scott milliner

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    It's a big improvement over the 1 3/4" springs. Much more stable.
     
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    tarry99

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    No question the Holbrooks are flexy and therefore articulate quite well.........and although Holbrook doesn't feel you need one a front sway bar with disconnects for on the road driving I think is a good Idea on any flexy suspension.
     
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    duffer

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    Chuck, how do the Holbrooks compare to the stock springs or stock length replacements like Rancho's for axle hop?
     
  12. Jan 16, 2014
    Kelbaker

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    After 10 year of jarring my teeth with Rancho Springs, I ordered, and put on a set of Holbrooks last June. The price with shocks delivered was $1150.00 for my 3A. and I agree with everyone else these springs made a huge difference in smoothing out the bumps. The installation was straight forward with a little bit of welding had them in on a Saturday.
     
  13. Jan 16, 2014
    Fiddy5cj5

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    U paid 1150 with springs. Woe the prices must of Went up dud you order everything through them mounts shackles ubolts and everything

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  14. Jan 16, 2014
    Fiddy5cj5

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    Correction. I ment shocks not springs

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  15. Jan 16, 2014
    Warloch

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    Since the extension of the springs is to the 'inside' - even though they are softer - I am not noticing a significant amount of axle wrap. It is slightly more, but not enough to cause problems.

    One other thing to consider - It took me 3 - 4 hours to install the Holbrook's. That is from the time I rolled the jeep in my shop to having them welded and in place going down the road. (sorry - hadn't read all the posts when I put this in).

    I too have interest in the YJ conversion for much the same reason you do, but my try for them is a few years down the road. They will probably go on a rig with D44s front and rear in a future build. My initial investigation tells me they will be as much or more money, and significantly more time invested in doing one.

    The items I didn't get from Holbrook was the Ubolts (local shop bends them to specs for me) - shocks - Rancho 9000s at a buy 3 get one free sale.
     
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    Fiddy5cj5

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    I wish I could find a buy 3 get one free deal
    At the moment I'm leaning towards the holbrooks. I wish some one had experience with both under the same rig but because the holbrooks seem a lot more simple and less time consuming. His wife are the holbrooks compared to the yjs

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    Fiddy5cj5

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    How wide*
    Sorry auto correct

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    Kelbaker

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    Ya, I think the shocks were Gabriel Shocks that Gary recommended and they are not adjustable but work good so far he charged $25.00 each. U-bolts did not come with the kit I got them through 4 Wheel parts
     
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    Pass the Hatchet

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    One of the guys in my Jeep club has Holbrooks on his Flattie. What I liked about the Holbrooks is the stance of the Jeep, about a three inch lift. The Jeep sat squarely on the springs with a lifted but natural look, with 33" tires. I also liked that the springs have a stock look. With the YJ springs they will stick out farther forward in the front and farther out in the rear. The width of the YJ springs are 2.5" but the Holbrooks retain the stock spring width 1.75" and shackle location. I am sure you can make the YJ springs look OK, though they will be out closer to the bumpers, but the Holbrooks look very clean, even factory stock from the front and rear view. I like that.
     
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    scott milliner

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    The Rocky Road YJ spring conversion rear springs are the same length as the CJ rear springs. It's the front springs they are longer. Their kit is an easy bolt on kit.
     
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