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I'm 17, just bought a '67 CJ5, looking for advice.

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by SplagosFarm, Mar 17, 2013.

  1. Mar 17, 2013
    SplagosFarm

    SplagosFarm New Member

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    Hello guys,
    I just bought last night my new 1967 Kaiser Jeep CJ5, its all generally original, meaning also condition but great for its age. I already know it defiantly needs new rear springs and all 4 shocks and all bushings. Runs pretty funky still even with new cap, rotor, plugs, and wires. Thinking its the original 2bbl Rochester carb gummed up a bit from sitting were it was outside. Just wanted to throw it out there and get some good advice from men that know a hell of a lot more than me. This is my first non 3/4ton ford pickup vehicle ever haha so I'm out of my element. Also would like to know what to look out for and were to pick up my new suspension parts and general info on the 225 Dauntless she has. Thanks.:JEEP:
     
  2. Mar 17, 2013
    piffey263

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    my advice, be patient, read and ask lots of questions. Get a factory service manual, (not the manual you get at your auto parts store an actual factory service manual)

    I picked up my 66 when I was 17, all it did was start.

    did you replace the points and time the engine? i'm not sure what you mean by funky, but might want to change fuel filter while your at it. I'm not sure if this has been sitting and such.
     
  3. Mar 17, 2013
    Jeepenstein

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    Welcome aboard!!

    Bubba
     
  4. Mar 17, 2013
    PeteL

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    You'll find a lot of solid experience available from people here.

    My advice is don't go hog wild all at once. My jeeps have "needed" a lot of stuff that they didn't ever get, but they still are fun. Just basic tune-up and lube all round while you get to know it. You'll discover and learn stuff along the way and have a much better idea of what to prioritize. Do one thing at a time, see how it works and get it right, before opening the next can of worms

    Get a good repro Factory Service Manual asap.

    Love your jeep and it will love you back. Welcome!
     
  5. Mar 17, 2013
    NExOBLIVISCARIS

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    Welcome

    as with any CJ, get a job.... you will need it. they can get expensive fast. i destroyed my differential and i went with a new limited slip and that was about 800$ total

    if yours was sitting for a while like mine was, here is an estimate on what to maybe expect
    so far i have replaced the master cylinder and half of the brake lines, the radiator the alternator, i have rebuilt the carb 2 times, replaced the water pump, and the thermostat, and the rear differential.

    i have an even longer list of things i need to do to

    it can be almost as much fun as you can have with your pants on but dont get to frustrated with it
     
  6. Mar 18, 2013
    Diggerjeep

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    Welcome aboard.

    I bought my first jeep when I was 18, but had been driving my dad's 42 since I was 14. I'll be 63 in April, and now have a 68. There has been four jeeps from back then to now. Once jeeps get in your blood, you are bonded for life.

    One piece of advice on the older jeeps, take a flashlight and look into the mouth of the gas tank. It is very common to have the tank rust inside and also the tank lining come off the walls of the tank. The newer gas with alchohol seems to play havok with the tank linings and certain parts of the fuel system (needle valve, and gaskets for example).

    Also, give a good stomp on the brake pedal, like you are trying to avoid hitting a deer. If you have a rusted brake line, or weak wheel cylinder, you may foce it to fail when you are standing still, rather than when you are doing 40!

    Good luck wiht your purchase, and post some pictures.

    Good luck with your project
     
  7. Mar 18, 2013
    John151

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    Welcome and congrats.

    Regarding your engine running "funky" - keep in mind this is an old carburetor engine without a catalytic converter - so "funky" might be normal when compared to a modern EFI engine. Do you have the 4 or the 6?

    Make sure she is road worthy first, particularly the brakes.
     
  8. Mar 18, 2013
    duffer

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    Welcome to the forum. If you are used to a normal, even fire Ford (or Chevy, Dodge, etc), the odd fire 225 is always going to have a bit of a funky idle. If it has been sitting awhile, the fuel system should be the first priority-make sure you have gas at the carb and then, if necessary, rebuild the 2G. Actually a pretty good carb and does well off road.
     
  9. Mar 18, 2013
    timgr

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    Since it has a 2V Rochester, we can assume that it's the V6.

    There's more to a tune-up than replacing the cap and wires. Did you replace the points and condensor? Did you set the timing? Did you set the idle speed?

    You also need to get familiar with your carburetor. Carburetors need rebuilding after a couple of decades, and your carburetor might be due.

    I suggest you get the factory service manual (FSM, TSM) and read it, cover to cover. http://thejeep.com/shop/TECH+MANUAL...ECH+MANUAL+CJ3B+CJ5%252F6+12V+4+%2526V-6.html - this is one place you can buy the manual. All the Jeep specialty retailers will have this book. Don't waste your time and money on a Haynes or Chiltons aftermarket manual - get the Jeep factory book. It's cheap, as these books go.

    For any new-to-you old car, I always change all the fluids, lube all the grease fittings, replace the belts and hoses, and do a complete tune-up. I don't think there's any online step-by-step instructions for doing a tune-up on a Jeep, but you should be able to find generic instructions. That plus your FSM should be enough.

    Jeeps have a lot of moving parts, and they are very often neglected by the previous owner (PO). Just stick with it, be careful and thorough, ask questions, and you'll end up with a reliable and durable vehicle that you can be proud of.

    Welcome from Boston!
     
  10. Mar 18, 2013
    kamel

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    DON'T take it apart! Many times when someone gets their first jeep and is going to "restore" it they get it apart and spend some money fixing a few things and it then ends up on Craigs list with an ad something like ---- "67 jeep, disassembled, some new parts - don't have the time to assemble and just lost interest and need something reliable to get me back and forth to work and school. My loss is your gain -- make offer. Need gone asap"

    Remember that back in 67 these vehicles were still primarily work vehicles, and they didn't have any of the 'stuff' that jeeps do today. They weren't particularly comfortable to drive/ride; they didn't stay too warm except in summer (and then they got HOT inside). They leaked, squeaked, and didn't go at highway speeds. If you need transportation and highway speed capability then a Wrangler is a better choice.

    I use one of my jeeps almost every day, and I've had dozens of jeeps since 1970, and a couple I even used as daily drivers for a short period of time, but a little Camry holds the road better, gets better mileage and is an all-around better vehicle for daily transportation.

    Remember, on the Corvette web sites they never discuss better ways to haul firewood, move logs, go through the woods and swamps with their 'Vettes.
     
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    PeteL

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    Well said, Kamel. Drives me nuts when people want to turn a combat vehicle into a sports car.

    I spend about $100 per year average on my jeep, and it goes anywhere i want to get to.
     
  12. Mar 18, 2013
    duffer

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    But he has a 225 and it WILL go at highway speed. With an OD, the 225 has no problem keeping up with traffic-just make sure the brakes and steering are both up to snuff. Sports car no, but power to weight wise I don't see much difference between my 68 with the 225 and the 2012 with the 3.6L. Road manners are a different issue--------
     
  13. Mar 18, 2013
    SplagosFarm

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    Yes, i should have mentioned that the points were also gone through and replaced. Fuel filter will also be replaced along with some other minor stuff. It has the Dauntless V6.
     
  14. Mar 18, 2013
    SplagosFarm

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    Thanks for all the opinions and advice guys much appriciated. Trust me im gonna keep her the way she is. Forgot to mention it DOES have the Dauntless 225. I began to understand the whole oddfire not idle great concept here. She runs and it strong and sure has some balls. Scared me already the pick up she had haha. I'm definatly like said here going to get the factory service manuel and not restore it but just get here mechanically great and run it how it was supposed to back in the day. Not caring to much about the paint/body condition because it'll eventually be scraping againest trees and other stuff so that doesnt concern me. Like Timgr said ill replace all the little things and grease every zerk shes got. As for brakes, the PO had then all redone by a damn good mechanic "appearently." All new lines and hoses and "newer" looking master cylinder. I don't really wanna go far with her maybe just to some shows and definatly the woods here and there so it it shakes and rattles i dont mind. Thanks alot fellas i really do appricate everything said.
     
  15. Mar 18, 2013
    SplagosFarm

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    Will do for sure, cant wait to get it all legal and go crazy with her. Thanks!!
     
  16. Mar 18, 2013
    Admiral Cray

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    Welcome from Bainbridge Island, WA.

    We like and need pics of your Jeep. You will need to post them from a host site like Photobucket. There is a thread showing how to do it.

    Sooo....

    :uwop:

    Sounds like a really nice Jeep.
     
  17. Mar 18, 2013
    SplagosFarm

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    Ill definatly set up a photobucket account tonight when i get off of work. I already took plenty
    and ill put em all up for sure.
     
  18. Mar 18, 2013
    WorkInProgress

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    I don't know how that year v6 jeep is but be prepared to find ALOT of zerk fittings if its anything like my 59. When I got my jeep I was seriously surprised how many lube points there were on my jeep. My 02 Silverado has about 4 total and my jeep has about 15. and again I don't know if yours is the same but mine you also have to oil things like the distributor and grease the cam inside it and such. Might not be a bad idea to get a lube chart. and yes Factory Jeep Manuals are a must. I bought a repop manual from http://www.willysjeepparts.com/ and the manual was printed by a company http://www.originalreproductionsllc.com/ and I think its a very good quality reproduction book. Service manuals are a must and I would highly recommend getting a Factory Parts manual as well if you plan on keeping it basically stock. and one last thing DONT BUY OMIX-ADA BRAND PARTS, when you can avoid it
     
  19. Mar 18, 2013
    jbjeeps

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    Welcome to the world of old Jeeps!

    There's a lot of great advice in this thread, I have nothing new to add, so I'll summarize a bit.

    1. Don't take it apart.
    2. Really, don't take it apart!
    3. We're serious, don't take the darn thing apart!!
    4. Get the stock motor running well.
    5. Get the stock brakes working well
    6. Get the stock steering working well
    7. Get the stock electricals working well
    8. Drive it carefully and have fun

    Enjoy!
     
  20. Mar 18, 2013
    Olyeler

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    Welcome, I advise treading lightly it gets really expensive really quick... Good luck
     
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