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Bent Shock Mount? Bad Bracket Install?

Discussion in 'Flat Fender Tech' started by Jeepsterjim, Jun 25, 2020.

  1. Jun 25, 2020
    Jeepsterjim

    Jeepsterjim Member

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    Now that the frame is cleaned up, it's time to dig in and address a few issues.
    Already removed the spring shackle and pivot brackets and ready to install the new ones.
    Will go over the frame and re-weld ? as needed. Am amazed as to how bad the welds are.
    NOW here's a head scratch'er
    The rear passenger side shock mount is not straight up and down.
    Please see pics-----first 5 are the passenger side-----next pics are the driver side----FOR COMPARISON

    IS THE BRACKET OR FRAME BENT? BRACKETS WELDED WRONG?
    pic 1
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    pic 2
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    Pic 3
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    pic 4
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    Pic 5

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    Pic 6 DRIVERS SIDE

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    PIC 7
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    PIC 8
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    NEED YOU OPINION AS TO WHAT'S WRONG
    BENT FRAME?
    BRACKET WELDED WRONG?
    OR?
     
    Last edited: Jun 26, 2020
  2. Jun 25, 2020
    Jeff Kline

    Jeff Kline Member

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  3. Jun 25, 2020
    Jeepsterjim

    Jeepsterjim Member

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  4. Jun 25, 2020
    Jeff Kline

    Jeff Kline Member

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    oops, didn't realize I was in Flat Fender area, apologies :)
     
  5. Jun 25, 2020
    Jeepsterjim

    Jeepsterjim Member

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    ya the dinosaur section, LOL
     
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  6. Jun 25, 2020
    duffer

    duffer Rodent Power

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    I'm a geezer but I don't remember those having a horizontal weld like in photo 1. I think it is just a bad shock mount repair.
     
  7. Jun 26, 2020
    Jeepsterjim

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    the brackets are welded down the sides of the frame as well.....I will post a few side view pics ASAP. Nothing looks repaired. A very odd deal but norm for me:banghead:
     
  8. Jun 28, 2020
    Jeepsterjim

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    The verdict is in-------
    I had two 'lifer' body and frame men come by today and after a length of time they determined the frame is straight. They found the every shock mount was off but NOT as bad as the one I had in question. All four shock mount "posts" were not straight either so by using 3/4" x 24" pipe and leverage, we got all four within reason. We left the bent bracket as is and simply bent the post straight.
    Conclusion....this frame was made either on Friday afternoon or Monday morning.
     
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  9. Jun 30, 2020
    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

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    Ya - I have in my possession two 2A frames and an MB and have worked on many flatty frames over the years - those are not stock shock mounts that I've ever seen.
     
  10. Jul 18, 2020
    Jeepsterjim

    Jeepsterjim Member

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    MYSTERY SOLVED.....
    Through persistent research and fun, fellow 2A forum member Joe Friday solved the shock mystery. Not only do I have this type of bracket, so does 2A forum member Buckeye.
    Buckeye's shock bracket

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    My 2A's bracket

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    And now where these brackets came from.

    A-485 ) Upper Rear Right Shock Mount for 1941-1945 Jeep Willys MB, not for Ford GPW
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    Check the video out that Joe found

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF3Tfh1pZZk

    It appears Willys simply used shock brackets on hand OR what the Gov't had left over. Sound familiar?
    A HUGE THANKS TO JOE FOR SOLVING THIS AND GIVING US ANOTHER WILLYS HISTORY LESSON
     
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