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V6 Ross Steering Box Removal

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Fireball, May 25, 2020.

  1. May 25, 2020
    Fireball

    Fireball Well-Known Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

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    I need to pull the Ross box out of the '69 to rebuild it. Looking at the FSM, you can pull the floor pans and yank the 4 cyl box out the top. However for the V6, it says you need to remove the steering wheel, remove the turn signal switch, jack the Jeep way up in the air, drop the exhaust, and pull the steering gear out the bottom.

    Is that true? My guess is the FSM is right, but I figured I'd ask the smart folks here.
     
  2. May 25, 2020
    Twin2

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    it's been many years . but . I am sure mine came out from above
     
  3. May 25, 2020
    colojeepguy

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    x2 that's what I was thinking.
     
  4. May 25, 2020
    Richard in AZ

    Richard in AZ I just don't understand the like of patina

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    I have headers......took mine out the bottom without removing any exhaust parts.....

    Said a lot of cuss words during removal and found after rebuild it was not much improved. Removed out the bottom (again) and installed power.

    Richard
     
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  5. May 25, 2020
    Fireball

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    Awesome. I'll try to pull it out the top first. Thanks all!
     
  6. May 25, 2020
    Richard in AZ

    Richard in AZ I just don't understand the like of patina

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    I think if you try to go out the top the brake master cyl gets in the way....
     
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  7. May 25, 2020
    Fireball

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    Well, that's on the repair list too. Maybe I'll do them both at the same time.
     
  8. May 26, 2020
    hman442

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    Mine came out the top
     
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  9. May 26, 2020
    TommyMac

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    Let me know how that goes, I just got all the parts for mine and plan on doing it this weekend. Would rather pull from the top if I can.
     
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  10. May 26, 2020
    Fireball

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    If you're doing it this weekend, you'll probably beat me to it.
     
  11. May 26, 2020
    TommyMac

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    Maybe I will just sit back and wait on you to do it first!
     
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  12. May 26, 2020
    Steve's 70-5

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    You will have to take the pitman arm off the side of the box.
     
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  13. May 28, 2020
    jeepdaddy2000

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    If your focus is on improving the steering, I would start at the bellcrank (if you haven't already). Lateral pin and vertical bellcrank movement is usually 75% of all wheel slop. This can be verified visually.
     
  14. May 28, 2020
    Fireball

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    Yep, did the bellcrank last year. There is some binding just off center in both directions when steering. You could feel it when nothing was connected to the steering box. My guess is the pins have flats and somebody tightened up the box to remove the slop. Now it binds a bit when the climbing up out of the flats. The pitman arm ball is also very non-round and I'm changing that too while I'm at it.
     
  15. Jun 1, 2020
    71CJ54WD

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    Now if one isn't keeping the Ross box couldn't you just sawzall the steering shaft right above the Ross box and then just remove the column up through the floor and remove the Ross box downward?
     
  16. Jun 2, 2020
    Fireball

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    For sure. But this Jeep is keeping the stock steering. I've already got a modified one with Saginaw steering.
     
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  17. Jun 30, 2020
    Bajman60

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    I removed mine through the bottom.
    Jack it up, drop the exhaust, remove drag link, floor plates, turn signal assy., steering wheel and left front tire.
    It was not that bad.
     
  18. Jun 30, 2020
    hooliganrick

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    just took mine out few days ago through the top. removed driver's seat, floor panels, brake M/C mount bolts, lots of cussing to go along with it....but it came out
     
  19. Jul 1, 2020
    Fireball

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    Awesome! I'm most likely pulling mine next week. Did you pull the pitman arm off before removing the box?
     
  20. Jul 1, 2020
    hooliganrick

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    yes I did....had to use a pickle fork though. popped off pretty easy.
     
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