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Cary's 1966 Tux Driver And Preservation...

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by Admiral Cray, Dec 29, 2019.

  1. Dec 29, 2019
    Admiral Cray

    Admiral Cray I want to do this again.. Staff Member

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    I bought this 1966 Tux from Virginia City, NV. The Jeep has spent most of it's life in Nevada. It's in pretty good shape for a 50+ year old vehicle. The Jeep has been ridden hard and put down wet. There are problems which need to be addressed. I plan to preserver the Jeep in driving condition slowly restoring it, but I mainly want to drive it...

    The body needs floor pans and there is some rust in the usual locations. There are some interesting cracks too. The spring are not installed correctly, so the ride is horrible...

    First thing I need to address is the broken windshield glass...

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    I'm going to take the windshield to a glass shop. Do I need to proved the windshield gasket? Where is the best place to order one and it needs a new windshield frame to Jeep seal?

    I have lots of questions... :shrug:
     
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  2. Dec 29, 2019
    MtWayne

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    Good find, good price. Very workable have fun fix'n her up.:bananatool: I sure you know rubber and stuff is easy to get. Looks like that rear view mirror is not broken, some good stuff on that jeep.
     
  3. Dec 29, 2019
    Admiral Cray

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    The next thing I need is opinions on the saggy conversion. Is it safe or does it need to be reinforced?

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    Is the tube running through the frame OK? Does the front heavy bumper hold the frame for the saggy conversion?

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    bkap

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    The Saggy conversion looks similar to what I did to mine, but I boxed the frame and didn't use pipe. Nice looking Jeep. But it may need a replacement bottle opener... Just sayin'... :D
     
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    Admiral Cray

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    I looking for a chrome stock Tux opener, very rare... :susp:
     
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    Admiral Cray

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    Another question, are there any symptoms for a bent frame? The Jeep drives fine and drives straight. I haven't had a chance to put it on a flat floor yet. There just seems like a lot of lean on the driver side...

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    Something is going on with that bar going across the rear frame rail. Not sure why the square bolt heads. Could be the springs that look like them been replaced not too long ago. The shackles look bent...
     
  7. Dec 29, 2019
    ITLKSEZ

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    I think your body is welded to the frame. :whistle:
     
  8. Dec 29, 2019
    Beach66Bum

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    Congrats again Fred on getting the ‘66 Tux.

    The glass rubber seal, if it’s sound and pliable (not dried out) glass shop can re use it
    The windshield frame to hood rubber seal, I bought mine off eBay, but Walck’s has them.
    For the “Jeep Lean” check all the body mounts, and the shackles for binding or damage (you mention one is bent) also getting the springs addressed.
    Because the Jeep drives straight, I believe your frame is not damaged.
    Can’t help you with the chrome Tux opener :D
     
  9. Dec 29, 2019
    Admiral Cray

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    Well kinda. It's welded to the tailgate hinge lower brackets which are bolted to the Jeep...

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    The bar across the back is not welded, just bolted...

    I need to get the Jeep up on the lift. Now where did I put the lift? Around all the stuff that was in the trailer...
     
  10. Dec 30, 2019
    Lockman

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    Concrats....Capn,
    Your right rear shackle & spring has been replaced , from the looks of it. Going forward , Walcks & Kaiser-Willy's are gonna be your go to parts folks.
    ( IMHO )
    The latter is very extensive & quick on one's order . GodSpeed on your new ' Kid ', I for one am glad that you've got the '66 that you were look'n for .
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    Richie---------Lockman
     
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  11. Dec 31, 2019
    Keys5a

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    I've had good luck with the quality of the windshield glass gasket and the frame to cowl gasket from Matt at Quarter Ton Military in north Georgia. His price is very reasonable. As far as your steering box setup, it looks pretty well done. Yes, a stiff front bumper sure helps to brace side-to-side movement of the frame horns. Better yet is a diagonal brace from just above the pittman arm over to the passenger frame horn near the front crossmember. The only thing I would check are those U-joint setscrews onto the Saginaw input shaft. I much prefer OEM splines with a pinch bolt.
    That rear frame crossmember overlay has me scraching my head. Maybe just a reinforcement for the (non-drawbar) hitch? You may want to remove that outer plate, and find a stock drawbar. The welded body mounts are questionable too. There should be body mounts back behind where the welded brackets are. You may need to replace the L brackets back there that were original.
    Get your Tux on a flat level floor/driveway? and start measuring from the ground to the frame, body, and whereever else things look "out". The tape will tell you a lot. Even check the tire pressures are the same, side to side! Springs and body mounts are the usual culprets. That torn footwell may be part of your lean.
    Whats the big knob above/left of the speedometer?
    That still looks like a nice drivable project.
    -Donny
     
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    jeepermc

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    A high right rear corner can also make it appear that the left front has a sag...
     
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    So awesome to see you with this. I will be following along on this build for sure!
     
  14. Jan 2, 2020
    Admiral Cray

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    The big knob controlled the PTO winch...

    An interesting thing that you'll like. The snaps for the rear side cushion are still there...
     
  15. Jan 14, 2020
    Admiral Cray

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    Is there a difference in the transmission/transfer frame cross member between a 4 cyl and V6? Is there a difference between years?

    TIA
     
  16. Jan 14, 2020
    Jw60

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    Yes. There is a little difference in holes to offset the Transmission and not twist the driveline at the torque mount but you can make them work.

    Hammer drill and welder will fix everything up nice.
     
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    Admiral Cray

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    So just weld up two holes? Any little brackets or things. What about the cable thingy?
     
  18. Jan 14, 2020
    colojeepguy

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    The 4 cyl has the torque mount on the crossmember but the v6 has it on the frame rail.
     
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    Jw60

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    Looks like you offset the Transmission mounting holes to move the centerline .75" to center I wouldn't mess with filling the t90 holes it's more work than it's worth.
    Then make a bracket for the torque mount.
    Stay cable... that's up for debate.

    Here's a good thread.

    1966 Cj5 Transmission Mount
     
  20. Jan 15, 2020
    Rick Whitson

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    I used a 66 V6 frame to do my Jeep, which was a 1964 F 134. I was able to weld the F 134 battery box, and motor mounts to the V 6 frame, and then use the F 134 cross member , it bolted right in the V 6 frame as it was already drilled for both the V 6 and the F134 cross member. Good Luck
     
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