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Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Chadd Montgomery, Feb 11, 2017.

  1. Feb 11, 2017
    Chadd Montgomery

    Chadd Montgomery New Member

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    Can anyone help me decode my serial number? I have 1966 Jeep Cj5 3 Speed V6. All websites I have looked into don't give me an engine code for the 7th digit and say there should be a total of 13 digits. This is a picture of my Serial Number badge on the driver side of my engine compartment. When I bought it the guy told me it was a 66' but the title said 67' just trying to get more info on it, Thanks!
     

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  2. Feb 11, 2017
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Sorry but i can't read the number, can you tell us what it is ?

    H.
     
  3. Feb 11, 2017
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    8305 S 235679
    I think Howard
     
  4. Feb 12, 2017
    ojgrsoi

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    11 digit vin seems correct for 67. Yours would not have the digits listed as 6th and 7th below.

    VIN Numbers

    Character
    1st & 2nd
    81 = Universal CJ-3B
    83 = Universal CJ-5
    84 = Universal CJ-6
    85 = Universal DJ-5
    86 = Universal DJ-6
    87 = Jeepster C101 Chassis Code
    3rd & 4th
    01 = Convertible (Jeepster)
    02 = Commando Convertible (Jeepster)
    04 = Fire Engine
    05 = Open Body
    10 = Open Body (Universal Diesel)
    22 = Tuxedo Park Mark IV
    23 = Fire Truck (Universal)
    34 = Open Body (Universal CJ-3B)
    54 = Open Body (Universal CJ-5)
    55 = Open Body (Universal CJ-5 Diesel)
    74 = Open Body (Universal CJ-6)
    75 = Open Body (Universal CJ-6 Diesel) Body Style
    5th
    A = V6-225
    C = Canadian Built
    F = Station Wagon (Jeepster)
    H = Pick-up (Jeepster)
    0 = Universal (Disregard)
    0 = Roadster Open Body (Jeepster)
    S = Smog (Universal)
    8 = Universal Body Style – Special Model Code
    6th
    1 = Left Hand Drive
    2 = Right Hand Drive
    3 = LDH California, Fuel Evap Control Drive Code
    7th
    4 = F4-134 without Emission
    5 = F4-134 with Emission
    6 = V6-225 without Emission
    7 = V6-225 with Emission Engine Code
    8th – 13th
    ###### SSN
    (Sequential Serial Number)
     
  5. Feb 12, 2017
    Focker

    Focker That's a terrible idea...What time? Staff Member

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  6. Feb 12, 2017
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Looks to be july-august '67.

    H.
     
  7. Feb 12, 2017
    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

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    "S" = smog. I know that '69 had the air pumps, didn't know that '67 would have had any smog equipment. Seems it would have had the "A" for V6. ? I'm confused.
     
  8. Feb 12, 2017
    1960willyscj5

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    The CJ5's had smog control from 1960. That is what the PCV is.
     
  9. Feb 12, 2017
    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

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    The air pump I'm talking about was on the late '60s models. I'm pretty sure that type of equipment is what the S references. Apparently it was on there earlier than I thought.
     
  10. Feb 12, 2017
    Dave B

    Dave B Frankenjeep '67

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    My CJ5 of January 1967 is a 5th digit S = Smog = equipped with Exhaust Emission Control. It was first registered in California--wouldn't you know!
     
  11. Feb 12, 2017
    Glenn

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    Well, what a surprise. :D
     
  12. Feb 14, 2017
    Chadd Montgomery

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    That's right, I'm just confused because it's only 11 digits so I'm not sure how to read it because normally they are 13.
     
  13. Feb 14, 2017
    Chadd Montgomery

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    So 11 digits is normal for that year? I'm confused on how to read it and figure out the info on it specifically the motor type. It has V6 badge and it's clearly a V6 motor I just wanna know more about it but I can't because I'm currently staying in Canp Pendleton and the hero is back home in VA
     
  14. Feb 14, 2017
    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

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    Without having the Jeep right there to look at it can indeed be tough to tell exactly what you have. Also vehicle id tags weren't near as informative then as they currently are. When you get back to where you can look at it you will be much more able to identify what you have for certain.
     
  15. Feb 14, 2017
    Dave B

    Dave B Frankenjeep '67

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    Yup, 11 digits are correct on my 1967 CJ5 (gleaned from hours of past research) ; a lot of decoders on the 'net would leave you wondering!

    In my case, on the VIN plate
    digits 1 & 2) 83 =Chassis code= Jeep Universal Model CJ5
    digits 3 & 4) 05 = Body Style code = Open Body (or 1-4 as 8305 = simply 'Jeep' Model CJ5)
    digit 5 = S = Smog
    digits 6 - 11 = SSN/Sequential Serial Number

    Regarding your motor info: Find the Engine Code Number (when you get a chance), then find an engine code breakdown (decoder). My odd-fire V-6 code is on the top of the **engine block? on the right bank between cylinder/piston #2 and 4.

    **Maybe this link will correct my memory>>Help identifying my Buick 231... At least I think it is. Thanks!
     
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  16. Feb 14, 2017
    Chadd Montgomery

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    Thanks for the help, this definitely made it a bit easier. Its hard since the jeep is back home but I believe it is a Dauntless 225 V6. Appreciate it guys!
     
  17. Sep 22, 2018
    berkin

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    Hey there,

    I am from Turkey, reason why I'm telling is that as you may know there used to be a factory in Istanbul in which many Willys were assambled. I am just trying to understand what kind of original characteristic my Willys got and what is changed before I got it. My serial number attached is 57548 139359.
    First question is, according to cj vin decoders on the internet, first two characters show that its chassis is universal, 3rd and 4th show that it is a open body cj5, 5th character shows that its body style is universal, 6th character is left-hand drive, but on the 7th i got a "3" which doesnt mean anything. Do you have any guess?
    Secondly, it seems that I should have a CJ5 but as you may see from the links, it seems like an original body of a CJ6.
    What do you think?

    0 3
    0 2
    0 1
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  18. Sep 22, 2018
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Wow! Beautiful machine you have there :)

    I'm seeing some panel join lines on the body and rear bumper treatment that do not equate with a american made vehicle, I suspect this may be a design unique to the Turkish market.

    The serial number would be correct for a CJ5 built around 1962, except that in 1962 they stopped using that s/n format, they changed to the format as explained above- again this may be a Turkish market thing.

    Can you give us a picture og the serial number and trade mark s? Also a shot of the engine & dash if possible.
     
  19. Sep 22, 2018
    berkin

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    Hello Howard, thank you for your quick reply!

    Well, as you mentioned, they did quite interesting things in Istanbul. As far as i read from different sources, there are some models with original body, some with hybrid solutions as well.

    You may see some additional pictures here.

    Thanks again.

    file3 5
    file16
    file1 7
     
  20. Sep 22, 2018
    ojgrsoi

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