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V6 Radiator Woes

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by plowbuggy, Feb 7, 2006.

  1. Oct 15, 2016
    Richard in AZ

    Richard in AZ I just don't understand the like of patina

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    Just wondering....any one ever try a cross flow Rad in a Jeep? I have an old M38 which was removed from a field and it had a cross flow in it.....Fit look good before I remove the locked up engine
     
  2. Oct 16, 2016
    kaiser krawler

    kaiser krawler kaiser krawler

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    Installed the Champion Radiator today. Bolted right in and my stock hoses fit fine. I used a goodyear lower
    hose # 60685. I had to cut about 1 1/2" off the water pump end. It clears my oil filter by about 3/8".Enough
    room to get a filter wrench on. It has a little over 1" clearance between the core and my flex fan, which has a
    spacer to clear the vacuum advance on my H.E.I. Took it for a ride and on the road it was right on 160 degrees
    which is the thermostat i am running. All in all i am pleased, even though it's a bit to shiny for a jeep. When i get
    time i'll get set up so i can post some pictures.
     
  3. Oct 16, 2016
    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

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    I have a custom cross flow radiator in the '51 - works fine with the V6 in it for me.
     
  4. Oct 17, 2016
    colojeepguy

    colojeepguy Colorado Springs

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    That's correct-70 & 71 use a different radiator than earlier V6's
     
  5. Oct 17, 2016
    Dauntless1971

    Dauntless1971 Member

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    Which exact model number of Champion or for what vehicle did you install in your Jeep? And what year do you own?
     
  6. Oct 17, 2016
    nickmil

    nickmil In mothballs.

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    Late '69 also.
     
  7. Oct 17, 2016
    kaiser krawler

    kaiser krawler kaiser krawler

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    I used the same radiator shown earlier in this thread, post #38. I have a 1970, but it is most likely a re-titled 1969, as it has a lot of the older model features.
     
  8. Oct 17, 2016
    Dauntless1971

    Dauntless1971 Member

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    Ok got it, just that is not a Champion Radiator, well if it is made by Champion only for Radiator express and not sold by Champion I guess.
     
  9. Oct 18, 2016
    Dauntless1971

    Dauntless1971 Member

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    Well now just tonight I see Champion has listed it for sale other than just by radiator express.
    CC7071
    Appears to be a direct fit and three rows for $210
     
  10. Nov 6, 2016
    Dauntless1971

    Dauntless1971 Member

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    How funny I just did a search on the Champion web site and this CC7071 is not shown when you search for a 1970 Jeep CJ5.
     
  11. Nov 8, 2016
    FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member

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    Website shows its out of stock - call for availability. That might be why its not showing up when you search? If they have supply, its a good option...thanks
     
  12. Dec 17, 2016
    LayemStr8

    LayemStr8 New Member

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    I just went through this whole procedure on my 70' just last week.
    I ordered the aluminum 3 core from radiator express at the advice of my local radiator shop.
    $ 275.00 plus $15.00 shipping. They instantly charged my card, then 5 days later I got an email from them stating it wouldn't be available till late Jan. or Feb.
    So back to local shop to recore my original to the tune of $402 and some change with tax!
    I installed it and I had a pin hole leak in the top of the tank! I went back and asked why they hadn't caught this upon pressure testing after recore?!? No answer for that so he proceeded to silver solder the tiny leak with a a much too large torch tip! It then had a whole I could put my finger in! He got it plugged up but now I'm concerned how long it will last...... :(
     
  13. Dec 20, 2016
    1960willyscj5

    1960willyscj5 Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like you should be concerned about his work!
    And did you get your money back from the outfit that charged your card?
     
  14. Dec 23, 2016
    LayemStr8

    LayemStr8 New Member

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    Concerned Yes!
    I did get refunded from Radiator Express.
     
  15. Feb 11, 2017
    CJ Joe

    CJ Joe Truckhaven Tough!

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    Update for anyone in need of a new radiator. Radiator Express has the Champion CC7071 back in stock as of 2/8/207. Not many in, only 11, uhh 10, mine arrived yesterday.
     
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  16. Feb 11, 2017
    Aaron Klein

    Aaron Klein New Member

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    There's another option....

    Speedway sell cross flow universal, dual pass radiators, 19" tall cores in various widths for less than $200.

    Both outlets are on the passenger side, so a new return hose will need to be had.

    Better cooling than a single pass 3 core.
     

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  17. Feb 16, 2017
    pamela

    pamela Member

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    I used the mustang radiator the lower outlet is to close to the fan so used electric fan mine is the 17" just a heads up
     
  18. Feb 24, 2017
    alpina72

    alpina72 Member

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    Make that 9, I got mine the other day.
    Have you installed yours yet?
    Looks like it's going to be a tight fit.
    I have to unmodify a few things that the peanut farmers that previously owned this Jeep did before I can install mine, and then figure out what the correct hoses are.
     
  19. Feb 26, 2017
    CJ Joe

    CJ Joe Truckhaven Tough!

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    Mine is not in yet. I pulled the old radiator and dropped the new one in...... almost. There is interference with the steering shaft. Saginaw power steering mod. I needed to make some corrections to the shaft since I put different headers in. And the whole steering shaft really needs to be done different so I guess I'll be doing that too.
     
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